Ghost of a Tale

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UNA, GRANDE Y LIBRE 30 Jul, 2023 @ 4:59pm
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Is there any wokeness or anticommon sense stupidity in this game?
Just a quesiton to avoid or not.
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Cursed Life 30 Jul, 2023 @ 8:20pm 
Nope
I hope so. This is, I guess, a reason to refund due to conscientious objection.
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Cursed Life 31 Jul, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
wut?
SBR 3 Sep, 2023 @ 7:19am 
I think I know what you mean, and I haven't seen anything yet. In that I think you and everyone should be entitled to not feel like something is trying to brainwash you with some kind of message when something doesn't need to have that message or it is not integral to the game/movie/episode/story. All I've seen from it ... it is lacking any kind of story, to be honest, to its detriment, just a mouse trying to find his wife/child, with no presentation that I saw of that backstory.
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Orlanth 28 Sep, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
A fair question I will not laugh at.
No, this game is not woke.
In fact it strongly represents social responsibility and traditional values in most of its main characters.
Kill Switch 21 Dec, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by SBR:
something is trying to brainwash you with some kind of message

Judging by the OP's question, it seem they've already been thoroughly brainwashed.
SeekerHammerdin 26 Dec, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
Wokeness is something you'll more likely run into with big budget works made by large corporations (AAA studios, Hollywood, Marvel/DC, and stuff like that) in the west, or in some cases, localisations of Japanese or Korean stuff.

This is an indie game made by a few people. So unless something stands out, you usually don't run into woke stuff with them. Check a review or two, maybe some gameplay, and you should be able to tell if you'll like the game from that.

Basically, don't get too paranoid about wokeness to the point where you avoid potentially good games.
Jaikarr 5 Jan, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
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Be warned! This game is rife with concepts such as compassion, anti-fascism/imperialism, and taking responsibility for your actions, all known to right-wing prats as woke.

Best to put the game down now and leave this community before you catch cooties.
chakkman 6 Jan, 2024 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by SeekerHammerdin:
Basically, don't get too paranoid about wokeness to the point where you avoid potentially good games.
I don't consider games which incorporate woke ideology good games. It's really bad style.

Games should entertain, not try to educate me politically.
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SeekerHammerdin 6 Jan, 2024 @ 8:07pm 
Originally posted by chakkman:
Originally posted by SeekerHammerdin:
Basically, don't get too paranoid about wokeness to the point where you avoid potentially good games.
I don't consider games which incorporate woke ideology good games. It's really bad style.

Games should entertain, not try to educate me politically.
I'll try and clarify my position then.

If someone despises woke elements in a game and wishes to avoid it, that's fine.

If someone is starting to ask if every game or show is woke or not, then that's going into paranoia.

Let's use this game as an example. Why ask if this game is woke? Was it something you saw in it? Something you heard or read about it? Was the company that made it known for woke ideology?

In the case of this thread, no context is provided for why someone would think it's woke, so it did stand out to me.

Also, once somebody starts getting into the habit of trying to comb out any "woke" out of a piece of entertainment, you're gonna get in the way of your own enjoyment of it.

That's also not counting that what one considers woke can vary. Sure, there's the really obvious stuff like the overly preachy "current day" messaging or falsely propping up a minority or a female by putting down white people or men and making them look like evil and/or incompetent buffoons which just comes off as mean spirited or hateful, or changing well known characters by making them various flavors of minority (here's Snow White but she's Hispanic now, here's Superman but he's gay now, Ironman is now a black woman) while calling anyone that doesn't like it an -ist or -phobe and generally just hating on the original and the fanbase.

But some things are more gray area, like having a gay character in a game or movie doesn't make it woke on it's own, but someone might be so sensitive to any woke elements that they could lump it in as woke anyway just for that. Or maybe having a female character that's more pedestrian in appearance, nothing wrong with it on its' own, but someone might end up seeing it as woke because she's not hot.

The unfortunate side-effect of the culture war, people start becoming overly sensitive and cautious.
penguin 9 Jan, 2024 @ 9:51pm 
The rat guards sometimes are sleeping but can wake up
ramajax 10 Jan, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
Not at all: this is, I think a German game, which means "not from the Disney country"
It is actually a sad story of a Mouse in a Rat prison who tries to find his wife.
Think of an old Grimm's tale.
chakkman 13 Jan, 2024 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by SeekerHammerdin:
Originally posted by chakkman:
I don't consider games which incorporate woke ideology good games. It's really bad style.

Games should entertain, not try to educate me politically.
I'll try and clarify my position then.

If someone despises woke elements in a game and wishes to avoid it, that's fine.

If someone is starting to ask if every game or show is woke or not, then that's going into paranoia.
A paranoia I frankly can understand.

Just look at the new Prince of Persia. Do you really think the prince ever looked like that?
chakkman 13 Jan, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by ramajax:
Not at all: this is, I think a German game, which means "not from the Disney country"
No. The guy is French, I think.
SeekerHammerdin 14 Jan, 2024 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by chakkman:
Originally posted by SeekerHammerdin:
I'll try and clarify my position then.

If someone despises woke elements in a game and wishes to avoid it, that's fine.

If someone is starting to ask if every game or show is woke or not, then that's going into paranoia.
A paranoia I frankly can understand.

Just look at the new Prince of Persia. Do you really think the prince ever looked like that?
You actually don't play the prince in that game, but a guy tasked to save him. Odd choice, honestly.

If we were to look at that game though, you have the "one side shaved" haircut, a big change in aesthetics compared to prior games, and it being made by Ubisoft, a AAA company which has made some questionable decisions throughout its' history. There you at least have reasons to question if there's potential wokeness, so it's not paranoia without reason.

Speaking of PoP, I'm still wondering what will happen to Sands of Time, they had a remake in the works, but that had to get scrapped because the team making it apparently made something "unsalvageable" and it went back to the drawing board.

Then there's me, still waiting for the continuation of the PoP 08 story-line, which will probably never happen at this point. One of my biggest pet peeves in video games, starting a story that ends up unfinished.
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