The Fall of the Dungeon Guardians

The Fall of the Dungeon Guardians

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Gui 14 apr. 2022 la 13:18
Difficulty balance
I play on Soldier, I am used to tactical RPGs and I burned 7 health potions during the fight with the lvl 4 boss. Is that expected ? I don"t think I made anything stupid...
No merchants and limited xp makes this game very difficult and dependant on RNG (drops and dodge) :roguelike:
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ManuTOO  [dezvoltator] 14 apr. 2022 la 20:19 
Hello,

7 potions is a bit high, but still expected. The lvl 4 Boss is one of the strongest Bosses in the game.

In long fights, the RNG evens out, and that fight is very long, so RNG won't help you or handicap you. Even against Elite, the RNG evens out most of the time.

Try to favor the damage mitigation of your tank.

Also, did you notice that if you use 2 potions in a row, the 2nd potion is less potent ? So you have to plan ahead to use your potions.
Gui 14 apr. 2022 la 21:45 
Yes I did, it took me 3 or 4 times to kill him so I had time to experiment with this mistake :)
Very glad to know that it is one of the hardest bosses!
ManuTOO  [dezvoltator] 14 apr. 2022 la 22:30 
3 or 4 party wipes on that Boss is a correct amount. :steammocking:

Congrats on beating him in a challenging difficulty for you..! :-)
Gui 15 apr. 2022 la 2:29 
The "for you" kinda spoils the congratulations :D
ManuTOO  [dezvoltator] 15 apr. 2022 la 2:41 
:steammocking:
It kinda does, but actually, many people give up too easily on the 1st tough challenge, so not giving up shows you have a good strength of character..!
And Soldier is the 1st difficulty level where you need to get all the basics of the game to prevail in the fights, so it's already quite decent, no worry..! :-)
FrenetiCat 16 sept. 2024 la 22:07 
This is my first run, 11 hours and i just reached the fourth floor. Ive been playing on Inferno difficulty since the beggining and i can say with certainty, it is trully hard, but entirely manageable so far. Had to fight the Undead King a dozen of times before i could win. I just wish the loot was a little better, maybe on the next floors things will change. Anyway, just pay attention to the enemy rotation and keep your tank taunt very sharp. Without it, you will surely get destroyed.
ManuTOO  [dezvoltator] 16 sept. 2024 la 22:47 
@FrenetiCat,
Hell on a 1st run and without complaining is quite a feat ! 😱

You might run into shock points though, if you didn't carefully manage your potions (ie: the Level 4th Boss, as explained above).
mayrc 24 nov. 2024 la 7:46 
Postat inițial de ManuTOO:
:steammocking:
It kinda does, but actually, many people give up too easily on the 1st tough challenge, so not giving up shows you have a good strength of character..!
And Soldier is the 1st difficulty level where you need to get all the basics of the game to prevail in the fights, so it's already quite decent, no worry..! :-)

If a fight is so tough that it often relies in random number luck like dodge..... then your encoutner design sucks hard and its NOT the players lacking character. Just a nice meant advice
ManuTOO  [dezvoltator] 24 nov. 2024 la 7:52 
@mayrc,
it would but the combat system doesn't rely on being lucky : the long fights even out the numbers, and you have plenty of emergency abilities to handle the shorter phase when they don't.
It gets tough for some people because they don't use the 1st levels to learn the rules, and once the game assumes you have learned them, they are overwhelmed.
mayrc 24 nov. 2024 la 9:09 
Postat inițial de ManuTOO:
@mayrc,
it would but the combat system doesn't rely on being lucky : the long fights even out the numbers, and you have plenty of emergency abilities to handle the shorter phase when they don't.
It gets tough for some people because they don't use the 1st levels to learn the rules, and once the game assumes you have learned them, they are overwhelmed.


Sorry i DID play the game and i DID beat the boss but the fact that you think Dicerols even out over about a 100 rolls in a fight explains your encounter design. Nothing personal realy.
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