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y0LAs 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:21am
About the revoked keys...
Forget about a class action lawsuit or support from Fanatical :
ANY 3rd party key can be revoked, and keep in mind that Steam does not make a single cent on these, so don't expect any refund from Steam on the 0,38$ you gave to Fanatical (4.99$/13 keys)
https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/origins-bundle
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

Free keys that BTW they never boasted about, when Epic Games was trying to "expose" their supposed abuse.
They still finance huge datacenters and let anyone host their game forever for as low as 100$ or 86€, yes they even do proper conversion.
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/

But if you buy a game, it's for giving a coin to the devs, this is just doing your part.

So you have a message telling you that you have a key revoked, and you don't know why, but you know you've got to be angry, because when you give a penny, you expect to get a golden customer crown, so here is the why :
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/402310/discussions/0/3068614788761423239/

Yes, this is a little short.
They didn't accuse Fanatical, but someone stole the earnings from 30 thousands copies, and if it is only through the Fanatical Origins Bundle, that's probably about 7-8k$ after taxes max.

The devs are not making a greedy move, they are not even able to get justice, all they can do is stopping thieves from stealing from their hard work.
They will give you back your key even without any proof if you care to read what they said about it.
It takes anybody 10 seconds to answer their form and they offer you a way to directly talk to them.
https://forms.gle/KhwizpYnrPGL2KQC8

So yeah, I didn't even knew I had this game, I don't care, not my jam, but I support the devs on this take, and I'd like people to be a little less self-entitled cause all I see is a crowd of Karens who want to see the manager.

Chill out guys, these are human beings trying to do the right thing, be supportive.

If they wanted to scam people they wouldn't give back the game on simple demand without any form of proof, and of course they knew their will be a huge negative backlash, and not a profitable one.

Speaking of profit, you think they run after money? The last update is from 30 May 2017 (1402 days ago), they don't have any DLC, this is not a free to play, and they don't have any other game.
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GraVe 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:26am 
1. fanatical has a BIG company in the back and NOT scamming their Key-Sellers
2. 3 Years later they Revoke all keys from 2018 ?
3. but keys from 2019 bundle (also fanatical) are not revoked?
4. the Publisher of this "game" changed 2018/2019. coincidence?
5. your wall of text seems like its written from one of the Devs "defending" yourself -_-

6. why the dev sold his keys to a 3rd party site? why he revoked it 3 years(!!!!) later ?
GraVe 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:29am 
7. "they dont have dlc" - so a soundtrack dlc is not a dlc anymore? well okay - for close to 4 $ !
8. only one game ? search for "Gathering tree" this was the publisher Before :)

Try for yourself:But if we check steam database, we can see that Gathering tree was only their publisher after 2019 (few months after the keys that have been revoked were sold) https://steamdb.info/app/402310/history/
and before and after its the "same" "new" "old" publisher Peta Games...
its a bg scam?!
Last edited by GraVe; 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:35am
It is Valve who enables this practice. I solved it already in 2017. Valve ignores it. See link. https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/1/2906376154320793429/
On the contrary, Fanatical is innocent. Valve generates codes, valve allows them to be revoked.

Valve allows you to revoke codes even after 100 years. As a customer, you have no chance. You can't even cancel a payment, complain. That's why they wait years. If they do so within six months, there is a chance to reverse the payment. Doing it after years is an intention.
Last edited by fukot.sk [>] hidden bored gamer; 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:38am
FantasyFreak_UK 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:34am 
Feb 2020 Key Revoked
SaD-82 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:35am 
Until someone will get a key provided by the devs through filling out such form, it's just blabla that someone would get a new key. And a company which revokes keys after such a long time can't be trusted in the first place by telling such nice stories as to offer new keys.
They didn't need to revoke the keys in the first place.
Brother PaciFist 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:36am 
The Ali guy who pinned the developer notice is a game designer at gatheringtree according to their website. https://tr.linkedin.com/in/ali-kara-91b82651

They are just trying to scam people or the steam developer account was hacked and the hacker tries to get to your steam account. Email and game key is enough.
Last edited by Brother PaciFist; 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:36am
Soul 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by y0LAs:
Forget about a class action lawsuit or support from Fanatical :
ANY 3rd party key can be revoked, and keep in mind that Steam does not make a single cent on these, so don't expect any refund from Steam on the 0,38$ you gave to Fanatical (4.99$/13 keys)
https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/origins-bundle
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

Free keys that BTW they never boasted about, when Epic Games was trying to "expose" their supposed abuse.
They still finance huge datacenters and let anyone host their game forever for as low as 100$ or 86€, yes they even do proper conversion.
https://store.steampowered.com/sub/163632/

But if you buy a game, it's for giving a coin to the devs, this is just doing your part.

So you have a message telling you that you have a key revoked, and you don't know why, but you know you've got to be angry, because when you give a penny, you expect to get a golden customer crown, so here is the why :
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/402310/discussions/0/3068614788761423239/

Yes, this is a little short.
They didn't accuse Fanatical, but someone stole the earnings from 30 thousands copies, and if it is only through the Fanatical Origins Bundle, that's probably about 7-8k$ after taxes max.

The devs are not making a greedy move, they are not even able to get justice, all they can do is stopping thieves from stealing from their hard work.
They will give you back your key even without any proof if you care to read what they said about it.
It takes anybody 10 seconds to answer their form and they offer you a way to directly talk to them.
https://forms.gle/KhwizpYnrPGL2KQC8

So yeah, I didn't even knew I had this game, I don't care, not my jam, but I support the devs on this take, and I'd like people to be a little less self-entitled cause all I see is a crowd of Karens who want to see the manager.

Chill out guys, these are human beings trying to do the right thing, be supportive.

If they wanted to scam people they wouldn't give back the game on simple demand without any form of proof, and of course they knew their will be a huge negative backlash, and not a profitable one.

Speaking of profit, you think they run after money? The last update is from 30 May 2017 (1402 days ago), they don't have any DLC, this is not a free to play, and they don't have any other game.

It's 2021, the year of cancel culture. Asking people not to be self-entitled works as well as talking to a wall. While I agree people are going overboard with it, the devs also didn't do the best job at handling it. There would have been better ways to go about this.
GraVe 1 Apr, 2021 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:
The Ali guy who pinned the developer notice is a game designer at gatheringtree according to their website. https://tr.linkedin.com/in/ali-kara-91b82651

They are just trying to scam people or the steam developer account was hacked and the hacker tries to get to your steam account. Email and game key is enough.

gathering tree was publisher of this game between 2019 and 2021. before and after it was pera games.
its a big scam
TehJumpingJawa 1 Apr, 2021 @ 9:23am 
Keep it simple.

We paid for the keys.
The developer has destroyed these keys.
Does the developer possess lawful excuse to perform this act?

If not, the developer has committed the crime of criminal damage.

We the end users are blameless in this situation, it's either the developers or the retailer that's acted unlawfully.
Brakzias 1 Apr, 2021 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by y0LAs:
Thank you very much for all the awards!! :reheart: :steamhappy: :csdsmile: :crystal:

Update ;
Each revoked key will soon be automatically back in your libraries : :health: :ghsmile:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/402310/discussions/0/3068614788762142906/
No they won't. Revoked keys are deemed fraudulent and are dead. You cannot reactivate them again. The store you bought the game from will need to provide a new key that you will have to readd to your library. Steam will never reactivate dead keys.
swilco266 1 Apr, 2021 @ 2:05pm 
I contacted fanatical, here was their response

"We are aware of an issue with Steam keys for Overfall, which we sold in our Origins Bundle in 2018.

We are in contact with the original publisher and developer to rectify the issue as quickly as possible, and will provide more details therein. We strongly refute any unfounded allegations around trust and can assure you that Fanatical continues to act with integrity, ensuring that all of our products are officially licensed.

We will email back with more information as soon as we have spoken with the publishers and developers.

Customer Service Team"
swilco266 1 Apr, 2021 @ 2:06pm 
I never said they weren't trustworthy, just asked what was going on. Guess they must have got a few emails like this haha
Quasimodo 1 Apr, 2021 @ 2:20pm 
''So yeah, I didn't even knew I had this game, I don't care, not my jam, but I support the devs on this take, and I'd like people to be a little less self-entitled cause all I see is a crowd of Karens who want to see the manager.''

Hmm, there is a difference between the verb entitled, and the adjective entitled or self entitled as you say.

Here are 2 sentences using them,

The Verb entitled would be used like;
'Customers of Fanatical who purchased a product activation code for Overfall are legally entitled to download and play the game Overfall'

The adjective could be used as;
'Self entitled developers Peta thought they could blanket revoke a whole bunch of legally sold keys along with some illegal ones because they had issues with a former publisher.
In the aftermath of this decision though they at least appear to realise what they did was wrong and are trying to resolve things as best as they can'

I'm not gonna bother pointing any fingers at the Dev or the publisher or anything, or make assumptions or guesses as to potential scamming from either of them. I feel for the dev's if they are a different company to the publisher and they got scammed by them.

It's just a fact that all customers of legal purchases through Fanatical should be entitled(Verb) to the license for the product and shouldn't be able to just have it revoked with no warning.

To be honest the whole process of digital licenses and legal limits that can be taken needs a review, maybe some investigative journalism and reporting from some gaming sites might be able to clarify things and promote change where its needed to protect the consumer. Legally the only person who i would expect to be able to revoke my key would have been fanatical if they never got any money for the product I would expect the developer to have to go to the publisher and the publisher to the retail outlet.

So yeah, just your average Joe Bloggs who has had his license key revoked after legally purchasing and not abusing anything within those rights of ownership is entitled to it and not acting self entitled. :)
Phenya 12 Apr, 2021 @ 6:48am 
And why was it necessary to write email in the form, which the developers asked to fill out in order for them to send a new key, if the key was not sent to it.
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