This is like the second game that revoked a key from my library of like xxxx games. The first game key that was revoked was some poor developer that was angry about a negative review. He gave me another copy after he was sober the next morning.

Originally posted by greenraven22:

For everyone's sake this better be just a poorly thought out April Fools prank.

But in either case this just shows why you need to buy DRM-free games from now on. Because at any given moment, even 3 years later after purchase, your game can be revoked just like that in a heartbeat.

This is one of the many things wrong with the game industry right now.

Said the guy with 2K+ games on their Steam account, this is an incredibly rare occurrence and is not a problem with the games industry, it's a symptom of the industry, there are those that will steal and commit fraud just like in every industry.

Originally posted by Skullmonkey X:

Said the guy with 2K+ games on their Steam account

https://imgur.com/atmLW5l

Three thousand, three hundred, fifty seven. Many of which have been delisted and revoked.

This is not as a rare occurrence as some people might think. That kind of money adds up.

Originally posted by Brother PaciFist:

This is like the second game that revoked a key from my library of like xxxx games. The first game key that was revoked was some poor developer that was angry about a negative review. He gave me another copy after he was sober the next morning.

LOL which game was that? That story is hilarious

Originally posted by greenraven22:

Originally posted by Skullmonkey X:

Said the guy with 2K+ games on their Steam account

https://imgur.com/atmLW5l

Three thousand, three hundred, fifty seven. Many of which have been delisted and revoked.

This is not as a rare occurrence as some people might think. That kind of money adds up.

Oh excuse me for missing that you have an extra 1K+ more non-steam games that I wouldn't be able to see as your steam account says you have 2399 products on your account.

The only way you would experience revoked keys on a frequent basis is buying from somewhere like G2A and if you did that's your fault for buying them from places like G2A that deal in stolen keys and accounts, selling of stolen keys is common and those games being revoked is also common, what is not common is developers revoking legally purchased keys from a reputable key seller and as you can see G2A is so bad that Valve have censored the very mention of it on Steam.

I have 2700+ products on my account with half of them being purchased as steam keys from reputable sellers I have had only 1 game revoked in 9 years because it was a key I purchased from a scammer.

De-listing also doesn't mean you lose your content on most clients, games get de-listed all the time on steam but you still have access to the content you paid for. This situation is unique and will probably illicit a response from Valve.

physical is even better, quite a few games on steam have console counterparts. They can't steal physical games back.

Steam sells DRM-free games too, but they could also revoke your ability to download it once the key is gone (same as GOG). DRM-free only helps if you already got the files backed up.

I agree with your stance though, this is exactly why I never bought a Kindle after the fiasco where they deleted legitly bought books.

Originally posted by gee:

Steam sells DRM-free games too, but they could also revoke your ability to download it once the key is gone (same as GOG). DRM-free only helps if you already got the files backed up.

I agree with your stance though, this is exactly why I never bought a Kindle after the fiasco where they deleted legitly bought books.

True - but at least with GoG you can download "offline backup installers" for your games, individual patches, pieces of DLC, and the like. Go to the 'extras' tab in any individual game and you can literally back up the installer for those purchased games. Just about any game I can buy on GoG now I do - just for that 1 reason alone.

Originally posted by kNoWlEdGe22:

True - but at least with GoG you can download "offline backup installers" for your games, individual patches, pieces of DLC, and the like. Go to the 'extras' tab in any individual game and you can literally back up the installer for those purchased games. Just about any game I can buy on GoG now I do - just for that 1 reason alone.

You can do the same on Steam with DRM-free games (well there'd be no installer, but the end result is the same).

You know, offline backup installers can be scraped in the future too. For example it's only a matter of one certification patch for Windows 10 and people will not be able to use those offline installers.

Galaxy client which help them gather and sell your personal info is all that matter for GOG right now. And this is not some conspiracy speculation anymore. It's a well-known business practice.

Games purchased through steam cannot be revoked

Originally posted by greenraven22:

For everyone's sake this better be just a poorly thought out April Fools prank.

But in either case this just shows why you need to buy DRM-free games from now on. Because at any given moment, even 3 years later after purchase, your game can be revoked just like that in a heartbeat.

This is one of the many things wrong with the game industry right now.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/0/3080999687760440211/#c3080999687760450931
Let's say there's payment trouble on one of your GOG games. When GOG detects the issue and revokes the game from your library that means you don't have any right to keep it anymore. According to the linked thread this game's publisher is working to restore revoked Fanatical keys that were purchased legitimately.

Originally posted by awg:

You know, offline backup installers can be scraped in the future too. For example it's only a matter of one certification patch for Windows 10 and people will not be able to use those offline installers.

Do you really think Microsoft plans to limit apps from third party stores? Also checking if third party backup installers are licensed to the third party would be a major breach of privacy that Microsoft would not want to get involved in.

Originally posted by Microsoft Encarta '95:

Games purchased through steam cannot be revoked

Sure they can. Just not as easily by developers pushing a button.

Originally posted by tmwfte:

Originally posted by Microsoft Encarta '95:

Games purchased through steam cannot be revoked

Sure they can. Just not as easily by developers pushing a button.

Like if your payment fails Valve will revoke it automatically. In this case Valve is the merchant and controls revocation.

When you activate a third party key the responsible merchant is the one who sold you the key, not Valve. Key revocation is an ability provided by Valve in order to recall keys that were not sold lawfully.