Ursprünglich geschrieben von Maxius:

... I will make a list on why the gameplay is just bad:

You forgot to mention how if you don't finish a certain quest given to you during the day, you'll die at midnight and have to start over. (I think it happens twice in the game.)

The game play does suck in many ways, but the story and most importantly the characters don't. The ending is hit or miss but it gets explored the most when playing as changeling. you've already mentioned pretentiousness and trust me i see where you're coming from but the devs themselves said that games can be more than just fun. Yes i understand that sounds stupid but an example id give is dark souls. dark souls fans are the same players who've screamed and broken controllers over it, because although its annoying and unfair, its something to be conquered and endured. The aforementioned characters to me are the best part and without getting into it too much ill give an example: Peter Stamatin. Peter is the architect and creator of the polyhedron (the weird geometric building) when you scale it you'll notice its made of its own blueprints which at first glance even to me i assumed was very lazy. After a few days peter explains that you cannot experience a miracle, you can only experience the absence or aftermath of one. In Peter's case its the former. Taya Tycheek (a character you'll encounter late into the game as bachelor) is a 5 year old girl who runs the Termitary (a massive factory responsible for 90% of the towns economy) and previous to entering the polyhedron, she was just like any other kid. This tower possesses the power to turn a 5 year old girl into a sovereign of the towns main factory yet not only has Peter never gotten the slightest taste of this power/magic, he cant even enter it. Thus his life consists of downing Twyrine (a type of alcohol in the steppe) without the slightest caution in regard to his life. The polyhedron has become the best and worst thing in his life and hes stuck in a limbo between tears of joy and suicide. Of course i don't blame you if that means nothing but my main point in saying all this is that you're only required to interact with him 5-8 times but sleuthing around yields tons of knowledge that fills the gaps in between the characters and the social climate of the town. There's real value in the game to many people and even its biggest defenders will never claim the game play is good. I don't seek to change your opinion, only to have you consider that someones opinion is not baseless because its value isn't apparent to you. Even if you think all I'm writing is pretentious slop I implore you to consider that Pathologic's fans aren't fans for the sake of being abstract, there is a reason, as is the case for the stupid duct tape banana. I think that piece is stupid but i couldn't write someones opinion off without hearing them out first yknow? I'm interested in hearing from you if you're so inclined! Have a good one!

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Maxius:

Walking simulator is the essence of this thing

And??? What's the problem with that? Walking simulators are my favourite types of games. (Also as someone that plays a lot of walking simulators, I disagree that this is mostly a walking simulator, it's at most 30% a walking simulator)

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Maxius:

Litterally not worth the time investment

This is why the games flopped, ...

It gets 90% discounts regularly and is under $2...
It did not flop, it is critically acclaimed in its country of origin and the kickstarter for Pathologic 2 far exceeded its goal.

What really irked me was how, after hours walking around, trying to get my bearings, the game gave me a game over at the end of the first day. The whole way through I was reading nonsense about astrology, divination, weird monsters that where nowhere to be seen, witch hunting, political power struggles, and whatever else these stoned devs conjured out of their asses. And it was sort of... interesting, I suppose, but the pace of the game, where you walk very slowly, but time passes very fast, and there's no explanation to anything, outside of guides and walkthroughs, ruins it, because I simply don't wanna repeat that whole process, very slowly at that, read all that BS (and let's be honest, reading this weird histrionic dialogue is what the game is all about, not the "gameplay" of moving at a snail's pace between houses), and then die due to something that had to be avoided early on to survive many hours later on a different day. It's quite obnoxious.

It reminded me of Dead Rising, but that one is actually a fun game with a great learning curve.

who asked?

As devs call it: "its human behaviour simulatior in terms of plague"

i try use 2x speed to walking, the game is much better

1. You did not play the game.
2. You spoiled yourself a story.
3. You are looking for excuses to hate the game.
4. You try to ruin experience for other people.
5. Pathetic display.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GenSec39:

1. You did not play the game.
2. You spoiled yourself a story.
3. You are looking for excuses to hate the game.
4. You try to ruin experience for other people.
5. Pathetic display.

Я согласен с товарищем Сталиным

Yagarchin hands typed this post, real oynons DEAL WITH IT

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deformerad Dallarydsbo:

Yagarchin hands typed this post, real oynons DEAL WITH IT

BARS

Pretty much everything about the game part of the game is indeed awful. I still slogged through it though because I found the rest of it intriguing. No way I'd ever do it again.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GenSec39:

1. You did not play the game.
2. You spoiled yourself a story.
3. You are looking for excuses to hate the game.
4. You try to ruin experience for other people.
5. Pathetic display.

You are exceptionally insecure if this is how you respond to a stranger not liking a video game on the internet.

I think opinions are fine, if you don't like a game nothings going to make you get it. But for me it was the story and atmosphere I loved in pathologic.

Maybe they didn't make the game for you to enjoy but to experience? Also just because it isn't your taste doesn't mean its bad.

I once accidentally joined a Griefer guild in a MMO, not realizing what it was. Then I learned the meaning of the motto - "Our game is to prevent you from enjoying yours" - and how it differed from the more common "kk uded" ganker OWPvP.

Long bitter posts explaining why something sucks can work as a get-back at the game for wasting one's time. They even make sense for big franchises. But I'm sure that anyone playing a 20 year old game is secure enough in their choices to only be mildly amused by this.

On a serious note, for anyone getting into Pathologic, I'd strongly suggest starting with Pathologic 2. It's incomparably more cohesive as a game, and so murderously difficult on the first run that boredom has no unscarred brain tissue left to infest. Pathologic 2 works both as a survival horror and an unusual narrative, so you can enjoy either or both.

Classic is firmly in the arthouse territory, like those intentionally black-and-white French movies. I like arthouse, so I found myself enjoying it. The dialogues are painting a surreal image of the world, and the tinting is even very reminiscent of 1920s false-color movies. You have to understand what you're getting into, it's like Metropolis or La Jete, only even more alien.