And this is why they never should have added them.

BHVR had to shut up the whiny Killers lol Oh no Fog Vials OP haha

Originally posted by Rutgrr:

BHVR had to shut up the whiny Killers lol Oh no Fog Vials OP haha

Yeah, and meanwhile Clown still go "brrrrrrr". Getting pretty tired of their choices

i agree, they should rollback this complete mistake of an item entirely, that makes much more sense.

non-viable =/= non-meta

The item was flawed anyway, easily defeated by basic human senses and game knowledge. Instead of bringing useful items, people bring this filth and don't even know when to pop it. As long as the general playerbase in soloq is the way it has always been, your soloq teams will never use the fog vials correctly, and indirectly will get you killed. It doesn't matter if it's meta or not, it's not even a fun item to use, and easily thwarted.

Originally posted by OH NO SHE'S BACK!:

And this is why they never should have added them.

Exactly, these severe nerfs are a sign, and clearly the sign is that the item was a mistake. I mean, what else can you even add to the survivor item pool in a fair manner that won't get kneejerk nerfed within a couple weeks? People barely use maps or keys as is, and the people that used fog vials were using them wrong anyway, what was the point? Killers that complained were big babies and refused to slightly adapt visually, and survivors that complained perceived a greater value of the fog vial than it actually had and thought it was a get out of jail free card when it was more of a gamble that you lose more often than not.

Originally posted by gsdudeus:

The item was flawed anyway, easily defeated by basic human senses and game knowledge. Instead of bringing useful items, people bring this filth and don't even know when to pop it. As long as the general playerbase in soloq is the way it has always been, your soloq teams will never use the fog vials correctly, and indirectly will get you killed. It doesn't matter if it's meta or not, it's not even a fun item to use, and easily thwarted.

Correct. Because most players soloq the killers have the advantage. Making the Survivor experience weaker was a short-sighted move.

Fog vials were already bad there was no need to nerf them. You just know people 4 stacked fog vials and some goober killers complained because they hate fun.

Does any of you ever played a range killer and faced 2 players in the same game using this vial? you change the whole gameplay for a huntress or a trickster player becoming a m1 killer since if you don't use full aura builds (wich survivor mains are crying about too since y'all says killers hate fun) you can't see anything 5 meters away from you. The best thing to do is either nerf it to the ground (to be polite) or remove it and not invent this kind of items that will make the whole community complain about it (mostly negative way).

I made a Tombstone Myers angry before the nerf of it
Escaping twice the tier III during a chase by using the fog vial and jumping in a locker right after the corner thanks to the muffled sounds inside

I escaped the imminent death twice and was able to open the hatch at the end with a key to escape

He told me he will report me for cheating because of teleportation because I disapear twice without any trace

The fog vial is a amazing tool, most of the time I see Killers getting throught it without any hesitation or problem to get a survivor, but if you use it with a small plan before hand it's amazing to lose the Killer in a instant and get out easly

Unless the Killer is one of the smart ones and will quickly turn around to check the weird locker where you were standing the last time he see you (It happen, I saw it)

And it never bother me as a Killer, a bit confusing the first time but after they are very predictable

they were kinda just a turn brain off item

Originally posted by lambda:

Does any of you ever played a range killer and faced 2 players in the same game using this vial? you change the whole gameplay for a huntress or a trickster player becoming a m1 killer since if you don't use full aura builds (wich survivor mains are crying about too since y'all says killers hate fun) you can't see anything 5 meters away from you. The best thing to do is either nerf it to the ground (to be polite) or remove it and not invent this kind of items that will make the whole community complain about it (mostly negative way).

1: Aura reading does not work on the smoke.
2: Wait until you learn about the Champion of light power strafers threatening to blind and -20% your speed anytime you dare attempt to aim at them. :D

Originally posted by Poofy:

Originally posted by lambda:

Does any of you ever played a range killer and faced 2 players in the same game using this vial? you change the whole gameplay for a huntress or a trickster player becoming a m1 killer since if you don't use full aura builds (wich survivor mains are crying about too since y'all says killers hate fun) you can't see anything 5 meters away from you. The best thing to do is either nerf it to the ground (to be polite) or remove it and not invent this kind of items that will make the whole community complain about it (mostly negative way).

1: Aura reading does not work on the smoke.
2: Wait until you learn about the Champion of light power strafers threatening to blind and -20% your speed anytime you dare attempt to aim at them. :D

then it just make it 20 times worse for the killer

Originally posted by Doobert:

what is the point of adding a new item if your just gonna make it non-viable.

Should remove it completely lmao

Everything Killers complain about gets nerfed, at this point the devs need to removes the entire survivor side of the game and just make DbD a Killer vs 4 bots game, killers are what bring in the money and almost no one wants to play survivor anymore so they should just we work the game entirely.