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Nono. It's okay. You Russians are a fascinating people to me. Wise beyond my expectations.

But yeah, everyone in America thought the Internet would essentially end. I thought it wouldn't pass, but life would continue on. Of course it did pass and...well...nothing changed

>>> You Russians are a fascinating people to me
oh, that is very sweet. thank you
kinda sad that most foreigners do learn/judge about russian culture and mentality by barbarian-esque actions of our goverment, or by some "suka-bl-y-at"-dudes in CSGO, or by hardbass videos in YouTube

edit, russian foul language is so popular that Steam censores the word "bl-y-at", п.издец конечно...

I, on the other hand, thought that anti-medicare act would pass and was surprised when I heard it was defeated 51-49 by Dems-and-allies coalition, but I was pretty sure that anti-NetNetrality act would pass (I also thought that Brett Kavanaugh would not be appointed in SCOTUS and was glad when I have found myself wrong)

in Russia we have such apocalyptic-like talks too. one anti-piracy act was claimed by opposition as the "killer of russian Internet and freedom" and so what? act have been passed and I am still downloading films from torrets - nothing has changed

Originally posted by rarestMeow:

>>> You Russians are a fascinating people to me
oh, that is very sweet. thank you
kinda sad that most foreigners do learn/judge about russian culture and mentality by barbarian-esque actions of our goverment, or by some "suka-bl-y-at"-dudes in CSGO, or by hardbass videos in YouTube

edit, russian foul language is so popular that Steam censores the word "bl-y-at", п.издец конечно...

I, on the other hand, thought that anti-medicare act would pass and was surprised when I heard it was defeated 51-49 by Dems-and-allies coalition, but I was pretty sure that anti-NetNetrality act would pass (I also thought that Brett Kavanaugh would not be appointed in SCOTUS and was glad when I have found myself wrong)

in Russia we have such apocalyptic-like talks too. one anti-piracy act was claimed by opposition as the "killer of russian Internet and freedom" and so what? act have been passed and I am now downloading the italian film "Muerte de un ciclista" by torrent - nothing have changed with act in-due or not

This is true. I have a Russian friend and have spoken to a few other Russians. You're more friendly than Americans would have had me believe.

One way to see things is to not focus too much on hysteria and to just continue living. We've lived without and we can continue to live without.

thank you one more time, americans are not stupid fat yankies either (I mean - seriously - images like that are quite common in our political eco-system)

yes, you are right - things come things go, buddhists and confucians got it right

didn't wanna to turn that thread into the socio-political discourse, but... well...

Originally posted by rarestMeow:

thank you one more time, americans are not stupid fat yankies either (I mean - seriously - images like that are quite common in our political eco-system)

yes, you are right - things come things go, buddhists and confucians got it right

didn't wanna to turn that thread into the socio-political discourse, but... well...

No no. It's fine. The point was that people were so gung-ho over the loss of net neutrality, thinking that many sites like Youtube and Google or services like Steam and Discord would either go away or require payment for use. In the long run, it's like the missile launched, but it was more like an arrow to see if it could reach that distance (an intended dud).

True, net neutrality in the USA has been gone for about 2 years, but I haven't noticed a single difference.

>>> True, net neutrality in the USA has been gone for about 2 years, but I haven't noticed a single difference

I doubt that would happen. from my point of view, it is not a good-business model for ISP to block access to certain sites and apps - Internet-outrage will kill any revenue from that idea

the only thing ISP truly needed is a legal instrument to limit/throttle person's bandwidth when they use it so much, but the only people who will truly feel that are those who stream Netflix 24/7 or download 40GB BDRips all days long - a regular person will not see it

even more, anti-NetNeutrality legislation may have a positive impact, for example ISP can "boost" access to certain apps and sites (why do we talk about limitations only?), like Wikipedia Zero initiative

also, why do we need even more regulations? Internet, ISPs, content-sites - they all can regulate themselves independently without extra goverment's touch

the bad thing here is that the actual talk about benefits and disadvantages of NetNeutrality is skewed into a political sphere and then it is just all about partisanship and party-loyality (and in the "Age of Trump" that is ALWAYS a thing, you can even refuse to bake a cake without being called a Trump-sympathiser)

Hate to be a buzz kill to the russian dude, but absolutely nobody in the country associated net neutrality with Trump. The blame with the whole net neutrality thing was laid almost entirely with Ajit Pai. In addition to that, the debate has been going on for MUCH longer than the trump presidency The very same article that the russian guy linked (Which tbh isnt a good source but whatever) has details of the debate going all the way back to the 80s. Hell, even the president before Trump suggested changes to net neutrality, which were met with heavy debate from ISps, we just didnt see it because ISPs dont do their lobbying in the public like the American people have to.
In terms of how it affects you now, the whole debacle with ISPs throttling competitors was a pretty big talking point, but now seems pretty far fetched huh? Consider this. IT LITERALLY HAPPENS. Hell, this was less than a month after net neutrality was appealed:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/21/16010766/verizon-netflix-throttling-statement-net-neutrality-title-ii
If you think you arent affected by it, you just arent doing your research, and (I hate to say it, but) your lack of understanding of the issue is part of the reason the issue exists in the first place.

To the Russian guy, most Americans dont think Russians are crazy or abrasive or rude or anything. The popular stereotype for russians now is that youre all tough and can drink a lot, and that yall have a lot of woodsmen. I think everyone is smart enough to realize its a stereotype though. Most people realize yall are a country just like we are, you have your own people and government and yall function as a modern society.
HOWEVER, i think youre a massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for making the cake reference. If you know about the situation, you know damn well why they refused to make the cake, and you know damn well why its an issue.

@Lyuze

you didn't change my opinion, but thank you for sharing your ideas on that situation; I appreciate that you spent your time on it