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You want to get the product, but first, answer the question: do you need a quality product or a product exclusively pursuing commercial advantage ?

With the inception of the present day work on the project continued. You can see what results have been achieved by the project, as changed his feed. This is the first project, many of the "walls" had to punch that would implement it.

You want this site deleted the game? I can remove it myself, just by pressing a button.

You don't like the game, find what you like, Express your opinion in the correct form, you're all educated people.

You are expressing your opinion, it's good! But you don't respect the opinions of others, not involved in the field, you just don't read the forum, it's bad.

You don't like the removal of the moderator has the sole right to decide what to remove and when, all the other forum members to these rules are subject to.
from the forum never removed the claim in the correct form.

The problems and shortcomings there are in any game, regardless of the size of the Studio and the budget of the game. To talk about the really bad problems in the game is not necessary, if someone is discussing, he is disingenuous, as there are thousands of examples of major projects with a much more substantial errors. But just as they are bugs in the game are tracked and corrected.

P. S.
I respect all your opinions and please refers to the above said with understanding.Breaks of the game associated with completion, not malicious intent.

Thank you for understanding!

Fedor Korovkin.
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Rockhead Gaz 28 Jul, 2015 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
The text below is translated using online translator.

You want to get the product, but first, answer the question: do you need a quality product or a product exclusively pursuing commercial advantage ?

With the inception of the present day work on the project continued. You can see what results have been achieved by the project, as changed his feed. This is the first project, many of the "walls" had to punch that would implement it.

You want this site deleted the game? I can remove it myself, just by pressing a button.

You're really missing the issue people have, namely the constant pushing back of the release date by a week or two at the very last minute, only to repeat the process every time a proposed date comes around. That is, frankly, treating your potential customers as an afterthought to the game's development, when, let's be honest, without those potential cutomers, there's no reason at all to continue the game's development.

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
You don't like the game, find what you like, Express your opinion in the correct form, you're all educated people.

You are expressing your opinion, it's good! But you don't respect the opinions of others, not involved in the field, you just don't read the forum, it's bad.

You don't like the removal of the moderator has the sole right to decide what to remove and when, all the other forum members to these rules are subject to.
from the forum never removed the claim in the correct form.

There are very few people on the forum calling others out for liking the game, and there's not much in the way of differing opinions getting out of hand. If that's the excuse being given for the constant forum-purging, then it's a poor excuse.

On several occasions, in fact, more than several occasions, people have brought the developers to task purely with regards to the exceptionally poor scheduling, and each time, those posting have had their often-thoughtful and concise comments deleted by the so-called moderator, who's idea of moderation seems to be to condemn any negative feedback about the game to the pits of internet limbo, where no one and nothing can get to it.

I've been following, and occasionally posting on the forums here for months, and quite honestly, the only disrespect I'm seeing with regards to the opinions of others is by the developer (or "moderator"), and it's taking the form of constant removal of anything construed as even slightly negative.

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
The problems and shortcomings there are in any game, regardless of the size of the Studio and the budget of the game. To talk about the really bad problems in the game is not necessary, if someone is discussing, he is disingenuous, as there are thousands of examples of major projects with a much more substantial errors. But just as they are bugs in the game are tracked and corrected.

Games suffer as a result of their shortcomings. The closest the industry has to a situation like this one is probably Duke Nukem Forever, and that game suffered extensively as a result of it's pre-release failures. Don't lump your product in with others who have commited no such poor execution when it comes to releasing their product, and don't try to accuse the community of bad-mouthing your title whilst letting every single other game out there off with a free pass - you're the one being disingenuous; every game gets it's share of bad press, the real deciding factor in whether or not a game endures is how the developer corrects it's failures, and whether or not they treat their community with respect. I'll give you a little hint: mass purging of the forum and censorship of negative feedback is unlikely to win you any fans, and no publisher on the planet would allow it because, regardless of whether or not they like the idea of the community having it's say, it's far preferable to simply allow it, than to tarnish their reputation by completely disallowing it.

Let's get one thing clear right now. Not a single person is dismissing your game based on it's quality or production values. They're dismissing it based on your inability to effectively manage a community; if you can't manage a community, how can they seriously expect you to manage a software development project? And if they don't have trust in you to do that, what makes you think they're going to pay you for the finished product?

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
P. S.
I respect all your opinions and please refers to the above said with understanding.Breaks of the game associated with completion, not malicious intent.

Thank you for understanding!

Fedor Korovkin.

I honestly see no malicious intent on your part, rather I see vast incompetence, and I find it even more alarming than deliberate malice. Not a single thing you've said here has resonated with me as a member of the community, and serves to show just how little appreciation and understanding you actually do have for other's opinions and for where the issues actually are, despite your protests to the contrary. You seem hell-bent on proceeding with stubbornness, regardless of the upset and offense the community feels at being treated purely as a necessary evil, rather than taking on-board the opinions voiced and making pains to correct them. It took Valve to step in and issue an ultimatum before you made any change whatsoever to your awful scheduling plan, and I suspect that even that was done only to buy yourself more time, after which the whole process will repeat itself again.

I'm as understanding as anybody when it comes to delays, disappointments and rushed development, but I refuse to be treated as an open wallet, who'll dole out regardless of any pre-release issues, and I know I'm not the only one. The first step in saving your game isn't getting it out the door; it's making inroads with a community who have been mismanaged to the point of being insulted and offended.

PS - I suspect this might get removed at some point, in spite of the respect you claim to have for my opinions, so I'll be keeping a saved copy of this post for future reference.
AIMLORD暁 poсka 28 Jul, 2015 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Rockhead Gaz:
Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
The text below is translated using online translator.

You want to get the product, but first, answer the question: do you need a quality product or a product exclusively pursuing commercial advantage ?

As mentioned above, you absolutely do not read the text or do not understand it.
1. Your opinion is interesting, but not true, rather it is an opinion formed from part of the context. This is understandable, as you may not be aware of the whole process.
2. Read the rules.
3. On the competence of the developer to judge the app. (Understanding the issue). Others may criticize, get angry, Express their opinions, within the rules of the forum and at the discretion of the moderator. (see the Rules)
AIMLORD暁 poсka 28 Jul, 2015 @ 8:02am 
But I definitely respect your opinions.
Bad reviews often very useful, perhaps even more than positive, as indicate the error.

Thank you.
Rockhead Gaz 28 Jul, 2015 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
As mentioned above, you absolutely do not read the text or do not understand it.
1. Your opinion is interesting, but not true,

Statements such as this highlight how unaware you are of the actual issue you face; the community doesn't mind that the game is delayed, they take umbrage at the way they have been treated throughout the whole affair.

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
rather it is an opinion formed from part of the context. This is understandable, as you may not be aware of the whole process.

I'm not entirely sure what process I'm supposed to be unaware of. I'm aware of the situation surrounding the game's botched release schedule, and the way the community have been kept in the dark, and how, in the event of negative feedback being discussed on the forums, said forums are purged completely. It's easy to say I don't have complete awareness of the points I'm raising when all my previous posts, and all previous discussions relating to them have been removed.

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
2. Read the rules.

What rules have I broken? I'm on topic, I have responded only to comments made by yourself, I'm not flaming or trying to incite a reaction, I've been courteous and polite, never abusive and, as far as I can see haven't tried to moderate the board myself in any way. Is calling into question blanket censorship of even the slightest negative feedback against the rules? Is questioning the deliberate misinterpretation of the Steam Community Forum rules to suit one's own purposes against the rules? I'm genuinely asking, because if it is, then surely there are a set of rules to govern what moderators should and should not be allowed to do.

Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
3. On the competence of the developer to judge the app. (Understanding the issue). Others may criticize, get angry, Express their opinions, within the rules of the forum and at the discretion of the moderator. (see the Rules)

That's not been allowed to happen, though. "The discretion of the moderator" is being used, in this case, as a get-out clause for mass censorship. The irony is, it's that behaviour that is currying you most disdain from the community, yet you continue to misguidedly wield that power without taking into consideration the series of events that have led to you having to purge your forum several times.
AIMLORD暁 poсka 28 Jul, 2015 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by Rockhead Gaz:
Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
As mentioned above, you absolutely do not read the text or do not understand it.
1. Your opinion is interesting...

On censorship to speak on this portal is not worth it, especially for restricting access to entire regions around the world without any reason, and you're talking about the censorship of messages. Delete messages all in a row, regardless of their nature, as he started the mess. This was discussed more than once. But every time, people are not reading the posts in this thread, start all over again... Repeatedly requested to abide by the forum thread and not create a huge number of topics with the same issues, of course they will be deleted.
ELVEON 28 Jul, 2015 @ 12:27pm 
Не сушите уже мозги ребят. Выпустите игру в раннем доступе и все. В чем проблема то? Ну убогие отчасти обьекты да хрен с ними - главное в игре это атмосфера. Понимаете!? АТМОСФЕРА! Лично мне наплевать на полигоны. Игра понравилась своим сюжетом и задумкой. Не мучайте людей переносом игры - это уже очень достало. Выпустите проект какой он сейчас есть и поддерживайте его латанием дыр.
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Hannibal 28 Jul, 2015 @ 4:29pm 
Delete this stupid trash. No one wants it. Bye
AIMLORD暁 poсka 28 Jul, 2015 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Hannibal's Leftovers:
Delete this stupid trash. No one wants it. Bye
Good luck.
East 29 Jul, 2015 @ 8:27am 
Do you have an english speaking moderator? I mean someone who understands AND is able to reply to questions?

You will also benefit because this moderator can explain why there are delays.
AIMLORD暁 poсka 29 Jul, 2015 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by east:
Do you have an english speaking moderator? I mean someone who understands AND is able to reply to questions?

You will also benefit because this moderator can explain why there are delays.
Hello, sorry for English speakers there.
Max Sprin 31 Jul, 2015 @ 6:22am 
Федор, желаю твоему продукту удачи. Я вижу сколько труда и усилий было потрачено на создание игры. Со своей стороны, хотел бы обратить внимание, на полное отсутствие простого ПР и комьюнити менеджмента для продукта. Особенно на такой важной стадии релиза. Для того, что бы правильно общаться с западноевропейской и американской публикой нужно разговаривать на понятном для них языке. Могу помочь с этим, если ты тоже чувствуешь, что нуждаешься в такой помощи. Удачи!
East 31 Jul, 2015 @ 6:25am 
So about the bet, REEWGAMES. You lost. You did not release the game, you released the demo as Early Access. And you just promise us more updates.

So keep your word and give me a Key for this game.
AIMLORD暁 poсka 31 Jul, 2015 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by east:
So about the bet, REEWGAMES. You lost. You did not release the game, you released the demo as Early Access. And you just promise us more updates.

So keep your word and give me a Key for this game.
With pleasure. Especially because your criticism is in most cases relevant. Thank you.
AIMLORD暁 poсka 31 Jul, 2015 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by Max Sprin:
Федор, желаю твоему продукту удачи. Я вижу сколько труда и усилий было потрачено на создание игры. Со своей стороны, хотел бы обратить внимание, на полное отсутствие простого ПР и комьюнити менеджмента для продукта. Особенно на такой важной стадии релиза. Для того, что бы правильно общаться с западноевропейской и американской публикой нужно разговаривать на понятном для них языке. Могу помочь с этим, если ты тоже чувствуешь, что нуждаешься в такой помощи. Удачи!
С большой благодарностью приму помощь.
East 31 Jul, 2015 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by REEWGAMES:
Originally posted by east:
So about the bet, REEWGAMES. You lost. You did not release the game, you released the demo as Early Access. And you just promise us more updates.

So keep your word and give me a Key for this game.
With pleasure. Especially because your criticism is in most cases relevant. Thank you.

REEWGAMES actually contacted me and kept their promise. Thank you, I am really surprised about this. And I see this as a sign of good will.
Last edited by East; 31 Jul, 2015 @ 9:12am
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