Well, I've been playing Front Edge since March and I can say that FE's PvP is VERY fun. No worries, they'll release single player game in a few monthes after FE.

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I love you guys formula for RTS games, its fresh mix of company of heroes and Men of war. Syrian warfare was great. But you guys are focusing on multiplayer now which is a huge disappointment for me. Personally i feel there are enough of these kinds of games new and old. But not enough good single player ones like syrian warfare. I would love to see you guys make a dynamic/sandbox campaign rather then a story driven linear one.

SP gets boring, people want to challenge other humans and one does not exclude the other.

Yup, multiplayer only means removed from wishlist and ignored. Making PvP only games is just lazy.

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I love you guys formula for RTS games, its fresh mix of company of heroes and Men of war. Syrian warfare was great. But you guys are focusing on multiplayer now which is a huge disappointment for me. Personally i feel there are enough of these kinds of games new and old. But not enough good single player ones like syrian warfare. I would love to see you guys make a dynamic/sandbox campaign rather then a story driven linear one.

SP gets boring, people want to challenge other humans and one does not exclude the other.

Don't be stupid.

In a month there will be no one playing this anymore.

On the other hand, if the game has a good singleplayer campaign, it lives forever.

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SP gets boring, people want to challenge other humans and one does not exclude the other.

Don't be stupid.

In a month there will be no one playing this anymore.

On the other hand, if the game has a good singleplayer campaign, it lives forever.

Actually you can always find players every day and evening. And I keep meeting new nicknames. Just speaking from personal experience. FE is available for playing in Russia since March 2024.

Pretty sure there will be both. No RTS lives without multiplayer, so even if you're a singleplayer-only fan you should be happy that there is a heavy multiplayer focus to ensure the game actually still gets continued content after launch. Like it or not, multiplayer is what keeps the more invested players sticking around in any RTS(Once you pass a certain skill threshold, most people get pretty bored of AI which are rarely any real challenge in an RTS without overt cheating), and those are the kinds of people that end up buying things like DLC or expansions most often.

It's a pretty safe bet that a more alive community will result in more singleplayer content, whether that be add on missions/campaigns, or simply having more maps to skirmish on with CPU's. Doomers saying it'll be dead in a month are just being cynical; If the game is any good at all it'll at least have a niche but consistent audience like other RTT's like Men of War/Gates of Hell/WARNO/Steel Division/Nebulous that have kept living multiplayer for years.

It's not some all or nothing thing, not many RTS/RTT are purely MP or purely SP.

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Pretty sure there will be both. No RTS lives without multiplayer, so even if you're a singleplayer-only fan you should be happy that there is a heavy multiplayer focus to ensure the game actually still gets continued content after launch. Like it or not, multiplayer is what keeps the more invested players sticking around in any RTS(Once you pass a certain skill threshold, most people get pretty bored of AI which are rarely any real challenge in an RTS without overt cheating), and those are the kinds of people that end up buying things like DLC or expansions most often.

It's a pretty safe bet that a more alive community will result in more singleplayer content, whether that be add on missions/campaigns, or simply having more maps to skirmish on with CPU's. Doomers saying it'll be dead in a month are just being cynical; If the game is any good at all it'll at least have a niche but consistent audience like other RTT's like Men of War/Gates of Hell/WARNO/Steel Division/Nebulous that have kept living multiplayer for years.

It's not some all or nothing thing, not many RTS/RTT are purely MP or purely SP.

Syrian Warfare was a banger with DLC and NO multiplayer. Terminator Dark fate defiance is a banger with single player focus and continued DLC. These style RTSs shine in singleplayer. And quite frankly there isnt enough of them, then these guys decide shift focus to multiplayer and no single player. BIG WACK. Multiplayer will have no progression of any kind to keep your attention, it will simple be start up multiplayer game, select your units and throw them at your enemy. THATS IT. No building up your army, leveling up units, augmenting units with better gear, nothing. If someone could make a multiplayer RTS that encorporates the progression you can get in singleplayer i would be game but they dont

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Syrian Warfare was a banger with DLC and NO multiplayer. Terminator Dark fate defiance is a banger with single player focus and continued DLC. These style RTSs shine in singleplayer. And quite frankly there isnt enough of them, then these guys decide shift focus to multiplayer and no single player. BIG WACK. Multiplayer will have no progression of any kind to keep your attention, it will simple be start up multiplayer game, select your units and throw them at your enemy. THATS IT. No building up your army, leveling up units, augmenting units with better gear, nothing. If someone could make a multiplayer RTS that encorporates the progression you can get in singleplayer i would be game but they dont

This just sounds like you being irrationally mad about a non-existent problem. Syrian Warfare didn't have multiplayer because of their limitations at the time, not because the devs dislike multiplayer. Terminator had multiplayer for a reason. There's no good reason in an RTS to intentionally forego multiplayer, humans will always be more challenging for experienced players to fight than AI.

No one ever said a single player RTS has never in the history of ever existed, or never had DLC. Who are you arguing against? Multiplayer exists because it's what the majority of RTS/RTT players want on some level, whether it be COOP or PvP. It's existence doesn't mean your singleplayer experience is somehow being 'degraded', it's not like there's suddenly two separate games being worked on. A SP and MP package has been standard in this genre since it's inception in the 90's.

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Syrian Warfare was a banger with DLC and NO multiplayer. Terminator Dark fate defiance is a banger with single player focus and continued DLC. These style RTSs shine in singleplayer. And quite frankly there isnt enough of them, then these guys decide shift focus to multiplayer and no single player. BIG WACK. Multiplayer will have no progression of any kind to keep your attention, it will simple be start up multiplayer game, select your units and throw them at your enemy. THATS IT. No building up your army, leveling up units, augmenting units with better gear, nothing. If someone could make a multiplayer RTS that encorporates the progression you can get in singleplayer i would be game but they dont

This just sounds like you being irrationally mad about a non-existent problem. Syrian Warfare didn't have multiplayer because of their limitations at the time, not because the devs dislike multiplayer. Terminator had multiplayer for a reason. There's no good reason in an RTS to intentionally forego multiplayer, humans will always be more challenging for experienced players to fight than AI.

No one ever said a single player RTS has never in the history of ever existed, or never had DLC. Who are you arguing against? Multiplayer exists because it's what the majority of RTS/RTT players want on some level, whether it be COOP or PvP. It's existence doesn't mean your singleplayer experience is somehow being 'degraded', it's not like there's suddenly two separate games being worked on. A SP and MP package has been standard in this genre since it's inception in the 90's.

Your speaking on the assumption that there is a single player element to this game, and I suppose there is because you can play a multiplayer match against an AI but that's it. The issue isn't that there IS multiplayer, the issue IS that these guys do great single player, and there IS NO single player. Also I didn't just name single player RTS games, I named these guys games. The upset is these guys switched up and I enjoyed what they had before and want more of it. Pretty simple to understand, who are you arguing against.

What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

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What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

A dev stated that it won't be there in another post. I hope they changed their minds.

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What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

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What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

A dev stated that it won't be there in another post. I hope they changed their minds.

Also just read the steam page. The writing is on the wall bro

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What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

"The «Front edge» is a real-time multiplayer tactical game" first line in steam page description XD. Also says fight in 1v1 2v2 and 2v1 asymmetrical fight, also test your self against a computer opponent (skirmish against an AI) blah blah blah. The steam page usually tells you alot about what a game is about, and this one talks alot about multiplayer. Doesn't say ♥♥♥♥ about a dynamic campaign, conquest mode, or any thing cool. Go argue with your mother, I have my own children to teach

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What makes you say there isn't any SP? They haven't said a single thing to that effect, so you're complaining about nothing but the shower thoughts in your head.

"The «Front edge» is a real-time multiplayer tactical game" first line in steam page description XD. Also says fight in 1v1 2v2 and 2v1 asymmetrical fight, also test your self against a computer opponent (skirmish against an AI) blah blah blah. The steam page usually tells you alot about what a game is about, and this one talks alot about multiplayer. Doesn't say ♥♥♥♥ about a dynamic campaign, conquest mode, or any thing cool. Go argue with your mother, I have my own children to teach

A manchild telling others to argue with their mother is rich. No one has declared there will be no single player content, and your own post contradicts that statement by the existence of skirmish suggesting they took the time to bother making AI for the game in the first place.

I'm not the one 'arguing' here, just voicing a reasonable opinion rather than generic contrarian internet hate train. If you're a tourist that doesn't like RTS/RTT games all that much and feels threatened by the notion of having to deal with other players even having the option of facing each other, then I don't know what to tell you, go play a grognard game like Combat Mission or Armored Brigade where the consumer base is 100 people.

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"The «Front edge» is a real-time multiplayer tactical game" first line in steam page description XD. Also says fight in 1v1 2v2 and 2v1 asymmetrical fight, also test your self against a computer opponent (skirmish against an AI) blah blah blah. The steam page usually tells you alot about what a game is about, and this one talks alot about multiplayer. Doesn't say ♥♥♥♥ about a dynamic campaign, conquest mode, or any thing cool. Go argue with your mother, I have my own children to teach

A manchild telling others to argue with their mother is rich. No one has declared there will be no single player content, and your own post contradicts that statement by the existence of skirmish suggesting they took the time to bother making AI for the game in the first place.

I'm not the one 'arguing' here, just voicing a reasonable opinion rather than generic contrarian internet hate train. If you're a tourist that doesn't like RTS/RTT games all that much and feels threatened by the notion of having to deal with other players even having the option of facing each other, then I don't know what to tell you, go play a grognard game like Combat Mission or Armored Brigade where the consumer base is 100 people.

"No one has declared there will be no single player content" you "But you guys are focusing on multiplayer now" me. Didnt say NO SINGLE PLAYER dumbass i said multiplayer focus as in 90% of the works in multiplayer.

Your first paragraph there is nul and void.

And you started the argument idiot. It was a simple conversation and then you start saying things like "This just sounds like you being irrationally mad about a non-existent problem."

No one asked you to come involve yourself in my post meant for devs and not idiots like you. Constructive freedback isnt just hate because you dont agree with it. Get bent already