What makes you think it didn't sell well?

Rebirth had 35,000 concurrent players yesterday. That's nearly as high as Diablo 3s all time peak record.

Its like a bait and switch. sell people the first part then limit the availability of the second all because of colours. Isn't it meant to be a game more than some fancy looking thing we cant play.

Rebirth has 3X the peak players of Remake (which almost never goes UP with sequels) and more than any Final Fantasy port, and was Top Seller on Steam for a while. I think it'd have done ever better with less censorship, a Day 1 PC release, and possibly more technical stability (though it's been good to me.) But despite that, Rebirth seems to be doing just fine. :)

The censorship did it for me. I've 0% tolerance for censorship to appease the modern audience these days, sold pretty poorly, check out steamdb

My opinion is:

Blocked another clown farmer

Originally posted by SpeedPL:

My opinion is that they went too far in the system requirements for this game. REMAKE still does not work on full speed on my PC specs - but at least it works. Rebirth does not even start so I don't plan on buying it until I change my PC... so thats somewhere in the near or far future.

Fans need to stop making excuses for FF series.

The real answer is, FF name does not have the impact it used to have.

For many older gamers, FF series took different direction so it is no longer the games they once loved. For the new gamers, FF franchise is boomer weeb franchise.

FF13, people bought it for FF name only
FF14, it's MMO, so that's entirely different thing
FF15, It was Nomura and vs 13 hype
FF7 Remake series, This is the last remaining glory FF series had left.

FF16 is probably a good indicator of what the number of actual FF fans remaining. Which is still good, selling around 6 million, but considering how much market has grown since release of FF7, which almost sold 10 million copies at it's launch, and many system sellers these days selling around 20~30 million copies, FF series is simply now a 2nd tier franchise in current market.

FF series is no longer competing against big boys like Elder Scrolls, Zelda, GTA, Monster Hunters, etc. FF's competition is closer to Persona, Dragon's Dogma, etc.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

What makes you think it didn't sell well?

Rebirth had 35,000 concurrent players yesterday. That's nearly as high as Diablo 3s all time peak record.

Diablo 3 isn't on Steam. Diablo 4 is but literally nobody plays Diablo 4 on Steam. Blizzard has a massive install base on their BNET app and D4 didn't release on Steam for several months after BNET. The peak concurrent playerbase for D4 on PC would be in the millions.

Not saying I think Rebirth has done poorly, but they probably lost some sales by not supporting some older hardware that a large share of the steam userbase still runs, and the PS5's time based exclusivity also probably hurt sales on PC.

Originally posted by PC Panda:

The censorship did it for me. I've 0% tolerance for censorship to appease the modern audience these days, sold pretty poorly, check out steamdb

what did they censor?

Originally posted by Stoners Knight:

Originally posted by PC Panda:

The censorship did it for me. I've 0% tolerance for censorship to appease the modern audience these days, sold pretty poorly, check out steamdb

what did they censor?

If you look at Tifa, she has clothes on.

Sales are not weak tho

DRAGON QUEST® XI
All-time peak: 4,813

Persona 5 Royal
All-time peak: 35,474

Metaphor: ReFantazio
All-time peak: 85,961

VII REMAKE
All-time peak: 13,803

VII REBIRTH
All-time peak: 40,564

For some comparison. For jrpg this is a very good result

Originally posted by PC Panda:

The censorship did it for me. I've 0% tolerance for censorship to appease the modern audience these days, sold pretty poorly, check out steamdb

What censorship? I'm anti censorship, but I didn't see any

Originally posted by PC Panda:

The censorship did it for me. I've 0% tolerance for censorship to appease the modern audience these days, sold pretty poorly, check out steamdb

You are just one silly stupid panda, you don't have concept of tolerance because of you low evolution grade.

some people are just waiting for updates or playing other games, this game was already objectively GOATED prior to PC release. Steam numbers and sales numbers are irrelevant in the short term. Even people who already played on consoles are buying again on PC. Only reason it may have not won more accolades was due to the soft lock from console exclusivity and PC obscurity but now it's here.

Originally posted by goodbye_bonito:

Sales are not weak tho

DRAGON QUEST® XI
All-time peak: 4,813

Persona 5 Royal
All-time peak: 35,474

Metaphor: ReFantazio
All-time peak: 85,961

VII REMAKE
All-time peak: 13,803

VII REBIRTH
All-time peak: 40,564

For some comparison. For jrpg this is a very good result

yeah great point, you've proved FF officially joined B-tier list. Considering FF7 Remake and Rebirth spent A-tier level budget to get result of B-tier game, that's not a good thing.

FF is not what it used to be, this franchise lost all of it's pull in the recent years. Partly because Square Enix are very stubborn, and they think it's still the 90s out there. Hence why Rebirth was unironically promoted as "Aerith's" game all the way through. Square Enix really thought that people don't know what's going to happen to her and that they would rush to buy the game just to see the ending.
The FF16 situation is even more bizzare, the game is completely westernized, it's literally GoT lite but with some FF bits. Idk who at Square Enix thought that this game will sell like crazy, people who want to play western RPG's can play games like Witcher, and people who want JRPG will ignore this game altogether. So in the end, it's a game for no one really, hence why it sold very poorly.