They should be in the Labyrinth, in the same area as the ghostly woman (they look like white glowing figures). You need to talk to them, then to talk to the ghostly man, then to go to the Changing God's lab and interact with the engine.

Originally posted by Hawke:

They should be in the Labyrinth, in the same area as the ghostly woman (they look like white glowing figures). You need to talk to them, then to talk to the ghostly man, then to go to the Changing God's lab and interact with the engine.

Well, there's no one else there, as you can see in the second screenshot. And the engine in the Lab has no new dialogue options.

Have you checked every path from the center in that part of the Labyrinth? I believe you need to see / do something at each; new things are added at one end of each one as you find the women.

Originally posted by Aquillion:

Have you checked every path from the center in that part of the Labyrinth? I believe you need to see / do something at each; new things are added at one end of each one as you find the women.

There's nothing there. Nothng added. You may also see that at the second screenshoth, there's nothing but the center of the room with a single ghost standing. Pressing TAB revealed nothing but that uninteractable engine as well.

Bug then, to report but not here.

It should work as Aquillion explained, each time you come back in Labyrinth, for each new women found there should be an animation showing a new pure white ghost and the area added.

If possible, beside report you could try check Labyrinth before to find the lab and before have find all women.

I found the bug description on Inxile forum. https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=17394
Apparently I shouldn't have talked to Sera before completing Ashen Imitation. Oh, brother...

Hi, I want to use this thread to pose two problems I have with that quest at the moment: 1. The 5th woman for me, Kiyatawa in the church of the canibals, provides no option for me to indicate her as such, she only wants to be left alone and says that I am a stranger when I ask her what is wrong. How can I trigger that conversation? With the others it was apparent in the description text and I could refer to it.

2. How can I return to the Calm without dying? Once I would have the 5 women I must talk to the ghostly woman in the fathom again I guess, but how can I return there?

Originally posted by Karras:

Hi, I want to use this thread to pose two problems I have with that quest at the moment: 1. The 5th woman for me, Kiyatawa in the church of the canibals, provides no option for me to indicate her as such, she only wants to be left alone and says that I am a stranger when I ask her what is wrong. How can I trigger that conversation? With the others it was apparent in the description text and I could refer to it.

2. How can I return to the Calm without dying? Once I would have the 5 women I must talk to the ghostly woman in the fathom again I guess, but how can I return there?

1. There should be something along the lines "You remember seeing her in the Fifth Eye". Just one or two sentences, when you meet her after accepting the quest;
2. Caravanserai => Tranquility's Rest (the inn). You need to ask the owner about her powers and ask to put you into trans (Persuasion check).

Neither of that works. Tranquility gives me the option to ask about her or the hostel again, triggering no further options, and Kiyatawa as I said before does not provide a description along the lines of the others and therefore also no option to answer. :(

Edit: Must be a bug?

Edit2: Do I have to progress in the main quest further? I have not visited Matkina so far. Or can the circles in red quest change any of it? I triggered it but did not progress so far.

Originally posted by Karras:

Neither of that works. Tranquility gives me the option to ask about her or the hostel again, triggering no further options, and Kiyatawa as I said before does not provide a description along the lines of the others and therefore also no option to answer. :(

Edit: Must be a bug?

Edit2: Do I have to progress in the main quest further? I have not visited Matkina so far. Or can the circles in red quest change any of it? I triggered it but did not progress so far.

1. Might be hidden Perception check for the option to appear (I've always had it at Trained+ level, so can't say for certain)?
2. The comment appears only once, when you first talk to her after accepting the quest. It doesn't provide any reply from the player.

I loaded a save where I had not started "Circles in red" or "Ashen Imitation" yet and had not progressed in "The Sorrow's Prey" so far that I could revive the corpse from the building in my mind with the numenera box, just to be sure there are not any odd problems with quests influencing each other. I just started Ashen Imitation by getting strangled, then went straight from the tavern to Kiyatawa and still it did not work. It's frustrating because when I looked for my particular problem and found no one even talking about this one, I found other talking about the ghostly man not spawning in the crossroads and I think that happened to me on top of that.

Originally posted by Karras:

Hi, I want to use this thread to pose two problems I have with that quest at the moment: 1. The 5th woman for me, Kiyatawa in the church of the canibals, provides no option for me to indicate her as such, she only wants to be left alone and says that I am a stranger when I ask her what is wrong. How can I trigger that conversation? With the others it was apparent in the description text and I could refer to it.

2. How can I return to the Calm without dying? Once I would have the 5 women I must talk to the ghostly woman in the fathom again I guess, but how can I return there?

For me I did not notice Kiyatawa until I upped my perception and then back to talk to her again. Almost definitely a perception check you have to pass.

Quest is bugged for me as well. Kind of disappointing.

well after I preorder Torment: Numenera recently I just had time to play and then I encounter this bug ... what a disappoint :(

Any chance someone figured out a fix for this?