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willpell55408 володіє Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

12 жовт. 2024 о 20:04

Ash quest broken

I can't believe they didn't name this quest "rise from the ash" or something of the sort. Anyway...

My first character saved Ash by paying a dude to switch clothes with him, and my second blazed through Hollywood without ever entering the Asp Hole. On my third, I offered to escort him through the sewers, and then I kill every single hunter, leaving the little under-construction train tunnel deserted of everyone but me and Ash. However, the game's NPC follow script seems not to include climbing an 8-foot ladder, so there seems to be no way of getting Ash to the door, which isn't openable for me. According to gamebanshee, the quest is completed by him arriving there, so it seems like it won't ever happen.

Is this fixable without use of console commands or the unofficial patch? I've been playing the Steam version of the game unadulterated, and other than occasional crashes and some failures to save, this is the first time I found myself simply trapped and unable to progress beyond an area. Do I just have to rewind #3 to an earlier save and leave Ash to his fate, or is there some trick I can use to get him up that ladder?

EDIT: Re the unofficial patch, I started playing without it, because I didn't have anything up front telling me that it was necessary, and so now I don't want to change my experience by installing it. I want to understand the game the way I have already understood it, until I'm completely done playing (which would mean going through once each with all 14 possible characters), and perhaps then I'll start over again with the patch to see what changes.

Автор останньої редакції: willpell55408; 14 жовт. 2024 о 3:20

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Цитата допису: Woofy:

I just ran back to Ash and went up the ladder again and again and finally he follows you. It eventually works even without a patch. Good Luck!

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Axle

12 жовт. 2024 о 22:19

Цитата допису willpell55408:
Is this fixable without use of console commands or the unofficial patch? I've been playing the Steam version of the game unadulterated

So unless I'm mistaken, you're not using any patch at all? The original reason all of the various patches were made is because the game was released in a near broken state. I think it may be possible to finish the unpatched version of the game - key word being 'maybe.' I don't think I've ever tried.

If this is the case, I would suggest installing a patch and starting over. Whichever one you like - Wesp's unofficial is the most popular, and it's very easy to install. The GOG version comes with it for a reason.

Edit: When you stand next to a character, you can sometimes make them move in the opposite direction. It's possible you can move him closer the the ladder this way. Don't quote me on that, though. I've never had this issue, and as I mentioned, I've never played the game unpatched.

Автор останньої редакції: Axle; 12 жовт. 2024 о 22:29

suejak

13 жовт. 2024 о 21:15

Not using the Unofficial Patch for Bloodlines is one of the weirdest things you could possibly do. Unless you just like bugs for their own sake.

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Woofy

15 жовт. 2024 о 18:30

I just ran back to Ash and went up the ladder again and again and finally he follows you. It eventually works even without a patch. Good Luck!

GrandMajora 16 жовт. 2024 о 19:57

Цитата допису willpell55408:
EDIT: Re the unofficial patch, I started playing without it, because I didn't have anything up front telling me that it was necessary, and so now I don't want to change my experience by installing it. I want to understand the game the way I have already understood it, until I'm completely done playing (which would mean going through once each with all 14 possible characters), and perhaps then I'll start over again with the patch to see what changes.

Aside from updating the game for modern resolutions, the unofficial patch is not necessary. I own a hard disc copy of the game, and managed to complete the game at least 10 times without having to rely on any mods or fan patches.

In fact, I actually encountered more bugs after installing the patch, than I did prior to it. Such as my furniture duplicating itself and stacking around my haven, or the computer in the Skyline Apartments being impossible to access because of an invisible wall.

Hux

16 жовт. 2024 о 23:03

Цитата допису GrandMajora:
Цитата допису willpell55408:
EDIT: Re the unofficial patch, I started playing without it, because I didn't have anything up front telling me that it was necessary, and so now I don't want to change my experience by installing it. I want to understand the game the way I have already understood it, until I'm completely done playing (which would mean going through once each with all 14 possible characters), and perhaps then I'll start over again with the patch to see what changes.

Aside from updating the game for modern resolutions, the unofficial patch is not necessary. I own a hard disc copy of the game, and managed to complete the game at least 10 times without having to rely on any mods or fan patches.

In fact, I actually encountered more bugs after installing the patch, than I did prior to it. Such as my furniture duplicating itself and stacking around my haven, or the computer in the Skyline Apartments being impossible to access because of an invisible wall.

You're one person. Most need the patch. The bug you had sounds like the memory leak from playing too long.

suejak

19 жовт. 2024 о 23:45

You always have these people that insist the sky is green.

GrandMajora 20 жовт. 2024 о 4:51

Цитата допису suejak:
You always have these people that insist the sky is green.

The sky isn't actually blue. It's an illusion cast by the sunlight interacting with our atmosphere!

Автор останньої редакції: GrandMajora; 20 жовт. 2024 о 4:51

darinbob

1 листоп. 2024 о 15:37

Another Ash problem is that even if he gets up the ladder, it is confusing what to do. I ran over the tracks to the other side, thinking an openable door was there, which there wasn't. Ash didn't follow and was in the middle of the tracks. So for a bit I thought I was stuck. But I just needed to run up to him when everyone's dead and he's up the ladder, and the quest completed.