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Life Teacher 7777 1 Sep, 2024 @ 12:26pm
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You won't believe this... FireFall is BACK!!! Not Hopium/Copium And Not Red5 FireFall
Great news guys! :lunar2019piginablanket:

First I'll start off with the old.
Fam, I've read here in discussions here. People are looking back with nostalgia (same lol, but not anymore since hope). A lot of great memories and PEOPLE, gawd I loved the community so much... A lot of people are STILL WAITING and it's been almost 10 year. Because like I think and read in the comments "the game is one of a kind, no one made anything close to it". It's true. A lot of people don't even know the game and people who do, know it's one of the best games ever made and I ain't even exaggerating. It was actually a WoW killer. Ofc if the devs were not ♥♥♥♥ and especially scammer named Mark the "blizzboi" who even has weird sexual stuff in the office + running away from company rumors and more after he took over as CEO of Red5.

My story.
So I've played FF from the early days of alpha. Got a limited key and was one of the early thousand/s of people. Played on a PC that couldn't run it maxed out. Played for a long while, met a ton of nice people to hang out with and made a guild, it was named OldSpark if anybody remembers. Unlocked gliders, thumpers, other items and got all/almost all warframes and maxed them out with best guns too. The funniest part is that I did a break, then open beta came and I came back, I did maybe 1-10 quests and didn't even bother, I just went farming, exploring and doing invasions with peeps and chatted. Oh the feeling of an LGV (bike) ride and the sound it made, how it felt. Mmmmm.

Oh and "The Melding War/s". I was there, lagging like ♥♥♥♥ 0.3 frames per second, partied up (you could do party + party groups) and literally killed the melding/main boss of the zone at the wall (end of the map). And a couple of times as well. It felt so good, around 100 people would come there and pew pew pew lag + die many many times. And of course the awesome people would get others right back up, even if they were not in the same party. That's what I'm talking about, people coming together was THE JUICE. Which to my knowledge is dry in the world we live in.

THE GOOD NOOS!
I'm not sure how and why... But I'd recall FireFall from time to time, RARELY and 2-3 days ago I noticed it in my game library and was shocked because I don't even recall it being on steam lmfao. So I read what people wrote in the discussions, then went to the web and searched.


What I found is why I'm writing all of this (TL;DR).

I've spoken with this dev who's making instance based co-op FireFall clone (he said it's not a clone, but it literally is). He worked for 1.5years on this and it looks really good.
https://www.youtube.com/@NEXUSDROP/videos
He has a discord channel (can be found in YT vids desc.) and he said he's working alone. Then I read in previous comments that he works in a small team... Anyway, unreal engine and a lot of footage of the game in the channel. I've watched all the videos and it looks fantastic for a clone. Though he said things will change, he's now making JUST THE CORE, when it proves all good then he'll get people on the payroll and basically expand the project.


Another project is team based and they want to make an MMO rather than online multiplayer. They are dedicated fans of FF, have a discord channel which is pretty silent.
https://discord.gg/respark
https://www.reddit.com/r/Abyssall/
https://www.youtube.com/@AbyssallStudio/videos
They are making it for 3 years (or 3.5) iirc. The game is based on Unity engine (haha unity, that's what humanity needs rn).
Just watched all the vids there as well. Weird, 6months ago (comment of the dev) said that they are on UE5 (Unreal Engine). Also most of their videos are updates without show of the gameplay.
These show the gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A0kJyBm9Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4IV7wPYwmU&t=198s
There are also forums like The Melding Wars which is a dedicated community for Firefall which actually is working with Respark and was created b4 Respark afaik.
If you want, Respark actually is looking for people who could join the project (UE5/c++ and stuff). I just hope that project is FOR the people, because it's by the people who actually love/d the game.


In conclusion.
I found out about most of this on
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefall
twitter too.

I have learned a lot new stuff that actually is very hopeful. And I hope this inspires you (reader). Because let's be honest, who nowadays will want to bring a mega game like FF back and not fk it up with today's trash gaming market of early alphas and dead B2P game?...

My quest here is done.
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Blargo 1 Sep, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Respark originally started development in Unity but later transitioned to Unreal.
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Randy Marsh 1 Sep, 2024 @ 3:44pm 
None of this is Firefall and none of this either:

A) ready, or

B) actually going to release anything

I'd love to have it back as much as anybody, but it's not going to happen.
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SimranZenov 1 Sep, 2024 @ 5:37pm 
I've heard of Respark, but it looks terrible and amateur. Very unlikely they will finish it, and even if they did I don't think people would buy it.

I hadn't heard of the first one though - nexus drop. It looks like he's making a lot faster progress than ember, and the game looks much more professional in my opinion. Worth keeping an eye on. Thanks for sharing.
Last edited by SimranZenov; 1 Sep, 2024 @ 5:38pm
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Life Teacher 7777 2 Sep, 2024 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by SimranZenov:
I've heard of Respark, but it looks terrible and amateur. Very unlikely they will finish it, and even if they did I don't think people would buy it.

I hadn't heard of the first one though - nexus drop. It looks like he's making a lot faster progress than ember, and the game looks much more professional in my opinion. Worth keeping an eye on. Thanks for sharing.

NexusDrop dev and Respark devs talked in reddit, some random asked them to join forces and Respark said that they are working on the servers/online infrastructure more than the actual game. So ofc the game/play looks like infant stages. Also I hope nobody buys it, because I want it to be free to play from the get go :winter2019joyfultearssnowman:

And yeah I agree on Nexus vs em8er, Mark (em8er) are scammers so they won't launch that ♥♥♥♥ and it's been years and thousands of money drained. People shared their experiences (like 1500$ donator) and so on. That they asked for refunds because of internal stuff. That project is a scam from day 1. Just like FireFall became a cashgrab, imagine paying $ for what was free at the start like paint jobs lmao.

Thanks for reading and take care <3.
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Life Teacher 7777 2 Sep, 2024 @ 4:04am 
Originally posted by Randy Marsh:
None of this is Firefall and none of this either:

A) ready, or

B) actually going to release anything

I'd love to have it back as much as anybody, but it's not going to happen.


True, it's not ready. But in your case I'd say don't loose hope. Because when people come together they can achieve great things. Like Wukong lol, 30 people started developing that game and it has become a meme on how greater it is than other AAA games.

Though yeah I haven't spoken to Respark dev/s yet, so I can't share any stories of their dedication but it's at least 3 years. I'll try to figure out about how close are they to at least alpha tests with the public, would be something nice.

Also Respark is open world, NexusDrop is opposite. Nexus dev told me that it's easier to balance and work on basically stability-wise so if one of them pops, then NexusDrop will be first probably. Things will pick up the pace once he (main dev) finishes the core of the game, then he'll hire people.
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Life Teacher 7777 2 Sep, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
#QUICK UPDATE.

"closed beta prob in about a year if progress doesnt slow down. early acces cant predict for now." - NexusDrop



"Hey! So we are not a FF clone, more of a spiritual successor. We are aiming for a similar art style and similar, but expanded gameplay. We have our own story that I have/am writing and when parts of it are released you will likely find some nice familiarity, but we have our own characters, locations, etc. It's a whole new map that we are creating too.

We are considering crowd funding, but only AFTER a solid beta is established. We have a donation setup through patreon currently, which grants extras here in the discord server.

For a closed Alpha honestly we are only waiting on the networking, we will likely do some small day playtests after the networking is done to test it and follow up with an extended closed Alpha after the build is stable. This could be later this year possibly, but don't quote me." - Hunter5683 from Respark.



Also lmao, Nexus dude in their discord. He wrote to them when I told him about the switch in the engines as he told me it was Unity and now he knows that it's UE5 from me. But DANG, I thought it would be at least a couple of years before any of them released anything solid for the tests/public.


"Yes, PC specs will hopefully be kept low around GTX 1050 level GPU at minimum, with being in UE5 we will see if we can maintain that goal, but with the recent efficiency updates it looks like we will be able to.

We are hoping to make it F2P, but it will entirely depend on our situation at launch, if it is not F2P then it will be priced like a indie games usually are.

We are currently trying to keep a little low key, but we will push publicly eventually." - Hunter5683, Respark


So get ready guys, we gonna be thumping once again and pretty soon. Got excited ngl.
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XhanZoX 3 Sep, 2024 @ 1:50pm 
Nice:steamthumbsup::steamthumbsup:
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Hakofugu 3 Sep, 2024 @ 6:01pm 
Theese are some really good news!:selike:
Who knows...maybe we'll get a new firefall inpired/spiritual succesor game before getting a fix for game itself an making it playeble again with all of the options and mehcnics...
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Harkster 3 Sep, 2024 @ 7:51pm 
Cool. We will see when the time comes.
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The_Mess 4 Sep, 2024 @ 12:33am 
Heh, OP get's a heartwarming award just for being so damn excited.

Me, I'm too used to indie MMO projects etc failing and unfortunately Tencent owns the rights, so there will be f*ckery. But it's lovely to see so many wanting more Firefall.

And yeah, I do miss the best days of the beat back when we had a rainbow of crystite types and a ton of flexibility in building gear. Plus OCT was so much fun, even if the map needed adjusting badly due to the gameplay changes lawl.

Not as broken as Harvester though, mind you, that made for some very, very fun games when you got two teams who knew what to do :3 And how to be extremely evil with AoE ultimates lawl.

Oh and ♥♥♥♥ Mark Kern, mind you he's very, very salty at the moment on all the well deserved flak he's getting for how ♥♥♥♥ the recent Em-8-er "vertical slice" is. Along people rightly pointing out his "history"...

Anyhow, I do hope both projects succeed, even if history is negging us all.
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Life Teacher 7777 4 Sep, 2024 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Hakofugu:
Theese are some really good news!:selike:
Who knows...maybe we'll get a new firefall inpired/spiritual succesor game before getting a fix for game itself an making it playeble again with all of the options and mehcnics...

That is the current route. As China owns FireFall IP and I doubt it would be any good, they tend to do cash-grabs and close down the projects. Just like meme crypto coins lmao. And the internet is pretty much silent about OG FireFall. So spiritual successors from people who loved playing FF is upcoming, hopefully without any lawsuits.

Also I found another project that I will update this thread with, actually maybe even 2. But yeah these that I've shared about are actually happening right now and anybody who wants can speak to devs directly without needing any privileges hehe. And the wait for them is not that long, I really thought it would take way longer. Since em8er scam is going for like 7-8 years now.
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NEXUSDEV 4 Sep, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
hi developer of nexus drop here just to clear a few things up.

the game will be open world multiplayer but i will be using sessions/shards instead of a persistant server. the current aim would be 80 people but that is due the the current map size witch will be expended.

this will be more achieveable and manageable then a true mmo and persistent server.
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Randy Marsh 22 Sep, 2024 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Life Teacher 7777:
Originally posted by Randy Marsh:
None of this is Firefall and none of this either:

A) ready, or

B) actually going to release anything

I'd love to have it back as much as anybody, but it's not going to happen.


True, it's not ready. But in your case I'd say don't loose hope. Because when people come together they can achieve great things. Like Wukong lol, 30 people started developing that game and it has become a meme on how greater it is than other AAA games.

Though yeah I haven't spoken to Respark dev/s yet, so I can't share any stories of their dedication but it's at least 3 years. I'll try to figure out about how close are they to at least alpha tests with the public, would be something nice.

Also Respark is open world, NexusDrop is opposite. Nexus dev told me that it's easier to balance and work on basically stability-wise so if one of them pops, then NexusDrop will be first probably. Things will pick up the pace once he (main dev) finishes the core of the game, then he'll hire people.

I've been on the Respark discord for like years, there is very little progress, for example i checked in earlier and it's just the same old ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and zero realistic progress that they can show anyone. I love those guys, but I don't see them finishing.
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Randy Marsh 22 Sep, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by NEXUSDEV:
hi developer of nexus drop here just to clear a few things up.

the game will be open world multiplayer but i will be using sessions/shards instead of a persistant server. the current aim would be 80 people but that is due the the current map size witch will be expended.

this will be more achieveable and manageable then a true mmo and persistent server.

That's f*cking stupid dude. we don't want shard bullsh*t, we want a true MMO and a persistent server.
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Zerschmetterling 22 Sep, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by Randy Marsh:
Originally posted by NEXUSDEV:
hi developer of nexus drop here just to clear a few things up.

the game will be open world multiplayer but i will be using sessions/shards instead of a persistant server. the current aim would be 80 people but that is due the the current map size witch will be expended.

this will be more achieveable and manageable then a true mmo and persistent server.

That's f*cking stupid dude. we don't want shard bullsh*t, we want a true MMO and a persistent server.

Are you going to pay for the server hardware? That's quite an expense for a single person.
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