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Buff Serena
Why not?

Serena is currently the most popular meta character, she can do everything but she can always do everything better.

A short while ago, she became one of the two baseline characters for the game, around which all other characters will be balanced. So if she gets buffed, that means that all other descendants will have an even higher potential buff ceiling.

It's been seen and proven in the past that players don't like nerfs, and that the devs want to balance the game, but they only know how to buff, so if Serena gets buffed that means that all the other descendants have even more reason to get buffed
Last edited by WaggishBean13; 27 Aug @ 5:46am
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If a reason already exists, there is no need to artificially create another one.
Your reasoning explains very nicely how to create a problem and sell the medicine.
Originally posted by Padr Inaiss:
If a reason already exists, there is no need to artificially create another one.
Your reasoning explains very nicely how to create a problem and sell the medicine.
It's called doubling down, and the devs have shown that they don't care that Serena is so strong; in fact, she will be getting even stronger come the new core system later in season 3
I'll just my buddy AI do all the talking here:


Totally get what you’re saying! 😅 Serena's like the ultimate powerhouse right now, and it’s wild how she’s setting the bar for everyone else. If they keep buffing her, it’s gonna be a never-ending cycle of power creep! ⚡️ I just hope the devs find a way to balance things without making everyone else feel left in the dust. 🤞 Let’s see how this plays out!
Poljanan 27 Aug @ 7:03am 
No. While I love her, it feels artificial because it's mostly because Serena is nigh unkillable and her 4th skill makes guns go boom. It's the same way how people loved Ines because she's easy and strong.
It makes playing other descendants really clunky and making you ask why you're doing all these gameplay gymnastics when Serena can do it better and safer. It's especially awful as a Gley fan because you have to invest so much into her to make her work and she's only really for really specific builds and particular guns that can take advantage of her unli ammo while also killing yourself with hp drain mechanics, meanwhile Serena not only can self heal, can ignore most damage mechanics by being able to fly, her 4th skill scales with hp and gun dmg so it makes her very future proof on top of making her really tanky and more importantly being able to make any gun powerful.
Last edited by Poljanan; 27 Aug @ 7:09am
This thread is incredibly stupid, so I am not sure why am I responding. However, I think it's important to point out that they just buffed Jayber to a playable state. Yet, he is still light years behind Serena in relative damage. If their goal is to buff everyone to Serena's level, why did they waste time doing a half ass buff with Jayber? I don't trust the developers to do what they say. Everyone knows Serena should have gotten nerfed, but apparently review bombing is effective against these devs.
Buff her so much her powers grow beyond the confines of the game and she accidentally puts this game out of its misery with a stray Restored Relic missile.
Last edited by Hybernian; 27 Aug @ 7:11am
Originally posted by WaggishBean13:
A short while ago, she became one of the two baseline characters for the game, around which all other characters will be balanced. So if she gets buffed, that means that all other descendants will have an even higher potential buff ceiling
Nearly a year according to your logic is "short"

Ok
Originally posted by SolusiRadikal:
Originally posted by WaggishBean13:
A short while ago, she became one of the two baseline characters for the game, around which all other characters will be balanced. So if she gets buffed, that means that all other descendants will have an even higher potential buff ceiling
Nearly a year according to your logic is "short"

Ok
IIRC, they made Serena and Ines their baselines when they were showing off S3 in one of their streams, before them it was Valby, Viessa, and Hailey as baselines
Last edited by WaggishBean13; 27 Aug @ 7:26am
ATF-XENO 27 Aug @ 7:27am 
Why not? Just remove the restriction on her fourth skill that converts HP into bonus weapon attack power, and eliminate the cap of 39,000 HP for attack conversion altogether. Back then, why did the developers go through the trouble of limiting her growth? They might as well remove all these restrictions to prevent Selena’s growth from being completely capped... Other descendants still have room to grow, while Selena’s growth is capped early, hitting the ceiling way sooner. She is currently the only character in the entire game with such growth restrictions—is that fair to her?:steammocking::steammocking::steammocking::steammocking:
Last edited by ATF-XENO; 27 Aug @ 7:28am
Originally posted by WaggishBean13:
Why not?

Serena is currently the most popular meta character, she can do everything but she can always do everything better.

A short while ago, she became one of the two baseline characters for the game, around which all other characters will be balanced. So if she gets buffed, that means that all other descendants will have an even higher potential buff ceiling.

It's been seen and proven in the past that players don't like nerfs, and that the devs want to balance the game, but they only know how to buff, so if Serena gets buffed that means that all the other descendants have even more reason to get buffed


She's not meta if she needs a buff.
Poljanan 27 Aug @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Hybernian:
Buff her so much her powers grow beyond the confines of the game and she accidentally puts this game out of its misery with a stray Restored Relic missile.

Serena's shooting so hard it creates an infinitely looping and expanding logic error that bleeds into Nexon's primary servers and crashes the entire thing.
Poljanan 27 Aug @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by BluntPirateOG:
Originally posted by WaggishBean13:
Why not?

Serena is currently the most popular meta character, she can do everything but she can always do everything better.

A short while ago, she became one of the two baseline characters for the game, around which all other characters will be balanced. So if she gets buffed, that means that all other descendants will have an even higher potential buff ceiling.

It's been seen and proven in the past that players don't like nerfs, and that the devs want to balance the game, but they only know how to buff, so if Serena gets buffed that means that all the other descendants have even more reason to get buffed


She's not meta if she needs a buff.
True. Meta is just a state of mind. We need to go bigger.
AAND 27 Aug @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by ATF-XENO:
Why not? Just remove the restriction on her fourth skill that converts HP into bonus weapon attack power, and eliminate the cap of 39,000 HP for attack conversion altogether. Back then, why did the developers go through the trouble of limiting her growth? They might as well remove all these restrictions to prevent Selena’s growth from being completely capped... Other descendants still have room to grow, while Selena’s growth is capped early, hitting the ceiling way sooner. She is currently the only character in the entire game with such growth restrictions—is that fair to her?:steammocking::steammocking::steammocking::steammocking:

They just should temove the growth based on hp completely and the serena issue would be solved
Originally posted by AAND:
Originally posted by ATF-XENO:
Why not? Just remove the restriction on her fourth skill that converts HP into bonus weapon attack power, and eliminate the cap of 39,000 HP for attack conversion altogether. Back then, why did the developers go through the trouble of limiting her growth? They might as well remove all these restrictions to prevent Selena’s growth from being completely capped... Other descendants still have room to grow, while Selena’s growth is capped early, hitting the ceiling way sooner. She is currently the only character in the entire game with such growth restrictions—is that fair to her?:steammocking::steammocking::steammocking::steammocking:

They just should temove the growth based on hp completely and the serena issue would be solved
Serena has one issue - she is too strong.
AAND 27 Aug @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Hybernian:
Originally posted by AAND:

They just should temove the growth based on hp completely and the serena issue would be solved
Serena has one issue - she is too strong.

Yeah and after temoving her damage buff she wouldnt be thst strong anymore.

Well when are the nerf nell threads starting?
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