Originally posted by Vantal:

I always find it hilarious when they run through missions but don't actually kill everything meaning we have to do all the actual work.

Originally posted by sgargoyle:

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Originally posted by Kou:

Originally posted by Vantal:

I always find it hilarious when they run through missions but don't actually kill everything meaning we have to do all the actual work.

They are doing something wrong for sure, because if I'll be rushing with Bunny - everything will be dead. It's not really fun though, so I am only using her for solo gameplay.

Originally posted by Kou:

Originally posted by Vantal:

I always find it hilarious when they run through missions but don't actually kill everything meaning we have to do all the actual work.

They are doing something wrong for sure, because if I'll be rushing with Bunny - everything will be dead. It's not really fun though, so I am only using her for solo gameplay.

• Casting skills doesn’t slow you down — combat stays fast and fluid.
  
• Warframes are truly skill-focused. No characters like Serena/Gley/Enzo that rely on weapons to function.
  
• You can run a mission with just 1 gun, just melee, or only abilities and still solo for 40+ minutes.
  
• Even Warframes from 5–10 years ago still hold up. Old doesn’t mean useless.

• All guns are fun — each has firing modes, alt-fire, and unique mechanics.
  
• No weapons are tied to specific characters or builds. Every weapon works with every frame.
  
• Ammo types are logical: not every shotgun is “heavy ammo” or sniper locked to purple ammo.
  
• Weapons never feel “meta-pigeonholed.” You experiment freely.
  
• No Reactors — you can use any weapon regardless of build or playstyle. If TFD wants to keep Reactors, they should make them ammo-type based, not weapon-type.

• Bullet jump, slide, wall latch, roll, dash, glide — built into EVERY frame.
  
• No modules or cooldowns needed — speed is baseline. You go Zoom-Zoom on all characters.
  
• TFD’s grapple hook feels like a clunky imitation of what Warframe already does better.

• Warframe has endless missions: Defense, Survival, Mobile Defense, etc. Keep going wave after wave while teammates can leave/stay.
  
• Factions are more diverse: Grineer, Corpus, Infested, Orokin, etc. Not just “three flavors of Vulgas” that all look the same.
  
• Shield mechanics are better designed: in Warframe it’s a drone above the enemy, not 5–6 floating bubbles that stall gameplay. No Voltia required for Yellow Bubbles.

• No Reactors/Components bloat. Warframes are complete from the start; you just mod them.
  
• No RNG stacked on RNG like TFD reactors, rolls, and sub-rolls.
  
• Warframe lets you swap to ANY of 60+ frames without re-doing half your build every time.
  
• Presets in TFD are limited and monetized. In Warframe, builds are straightforward, not locked behind “buy more slots.” Pick my Warframe and bam — nothing else needs adjusting.

• Cosmetics are the main monetization. Boosters/slots exist, but cheaper than TFD.
  
• Warframe doesn’t FOMO-lock weapons behind battle passes. Only cosmetics should be premium.
  
• The Vault system means premium items never stay gone forever — they return every year, and you can earn them with in-game currency.
  
• Trade system exists, so players can buy/sell mods, built parts, blueprints, and help each other out.
  
• Clans/guilds add actual community features, something TFD is still lacking.

Originally posted by Puicey_Enthusiast:

Firstly, I’m autistic and ADHD, so I’m not very articulate. I used ChatGPT to help structure my reply — otherwise I’d ramble on with way too many words.

Honestly, people might be tired of hearing Warframe vs. TFD — but Warframe has nailed things where The First Descendant stumbles.

Skills & Combat Flow

• Casting skills doesn’t slow you down — combat stays fast and fluid.
  
• Warframes are truly skill-focused. No characters like Serena/Gley/Enzo that rely on weapons to function.
  
• You can run a mission with just 1 gun, just melee, or only abilities and still solo for 40+ minutes.
  
• Even Warframes from 5–10 years ago still hold up. Old doesn’t mean useless.

Weapons

• All guns are fun — each has firing modes, alt-fire, and unique mechanics.
  
• No weapons are tied to specific characters or builds. Every weapon works with every frame.
  
• Ammo types are logical: not every shotgun is “heavy ammo” or sniper locked to purple ammo.
  
• Weapons never feel “meta-pigeonholed.” You experiment freely.
  
• No Reactors — you can use any weapon regardless of build or playstyle. If TFD wants to keep Reactors, they should make them ammo-type based, not weapon-type.

Movement

• Bullet jump, slide, wall latch, roll, dash, glide — built into EVERY frame.
  
• No modules or cooldowns needed — speed is baseline. You go Zoom-Zoom on all characters.
  
• TFD’s grapple hook feels like a clunky imitation of what Warframe already does better.

Missions & Enemies

• Warframe has endless missions: Defense, Survival, Mobile Defense, etc. Keep going wave after wave while teammates can leave/stay.
  
• Factions are more diverse: Grineer, Corpus, Infested, Orokin, etc. Not just “three flavors of Vulgas” that all look the same.
  
• Shield mechanics are better designed: in Warframe it’s a drone above the enemy, not 5–6 floating bubbles that stall gameplay. No Voltia required for Yellow Bubbles.

Progression & Builds

• No Reactors/Components bloat. Warframes are complete from the start; you just mod them.
  
• No RNG stacked on RNG like TFD reactors, rolls, and sub-rolls.
  
• Warframe lets you swap to ANY of 60+ frames without re-doing half your build every time.
  
• Presets in TFD are limited and monetized. In Warframe, builds are straightforward, not locked behind “buy more slots.” Pick my Warframe and bam — nothing else needs adjusting.

Monetization & Community

• Cosmetics are the main monetization. Boosters/slots exist, but cheaper than TFD.
  
• Warframe doesn’t FOMO-lock weapons behind battle passes. Only cosmetics should be premium.
  
• The Vault system means premium items never stay gone forever — they return every year, and you can earn them with in-game currency.
  
• Trade system exists, so players can buy/sell mods, built parts, blueprints, and help each other out.
  
• Clans/guilds add actual community features, something TFD is still lacking.

To be fair…
The First Descendant does win in one area: character models and jiggle physics. That’s its strongest appeal. But when it comes to depth, progression, freedom, and long-term design Warframe is simply built better.