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7djames7 1 Jan, 2014 @ 4:03pm
Renoah and her accuracy
Her accuracy needs a nerf and so does her alt+R I have seen people lead thier team and take on 3 people at once and still win.

The main reason why I think her accuracy, atleast with her pistols, should be nerfed is because no other character can fire that quickly while moving and still maintain accuracy. Richard has a shotgun so at a distance your doing 4-5 damage in one jump, hyde's arrows fallow an arc so at long range they become practicaly useless,elrath has to stop moving and charge up the shot, gasper's mortar is like hydes arrows. All of the other characters have some impracticality to there ranged attack. Renoah can literally snipe with her pistols and do 10-15 damage a bullet firing at about 2.5 shots/sec. regardless of range. Personally I think the pistols should be for short range kills and start to be impractical at medium range(about the distance from spawn to train in steam canal). If you wan't to snipe do so with her winchester not her revolver.
Last edited by 7djames7; 2 Jan, 2014 @ 12:30pm
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Job 2 Jan, 2014 @ 2:14am 
Renoah is not that hard to beat. This must have been a very good renoah.
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7djames7 2 Jan, 2014 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Job:
Renoah is not that hard to beat. This must have been a very good renoah.

A skilled renoah with SP pots won't even let you get near her. So yes she was very good. Also updated OP with some actually reasonig as to why her accuracy needs a nerf.
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Hobbes Beoulve 4 Jan, 2014 @ 11:05am 
I think the second shot of her pistols should have a bit of an accuracy nerf at extreme ranges, It's way too accurate and I main her, she's extremely fun. But double pistols having just as good accuracy as a sniper rifle is just awkward.
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ChronicLag 4 Jan, 2014 @ 6:25pm 
Was this in Steam Canal?
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7djames7 4 Jan, 2014 @ 6:53pm 
Originally posted by ChronicLag:
Was this in Steam Canal?

Yes almost always is. but it still doesn't make sense how accurate her pistols are.
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GalaxyAurora 6 Jan, 2014 @ 7:51am 
I could agree on accuracy nerf for pistols, but her alt+R is fair giving that it takes 1 RP bar. Every other champ you listed up there competes for the most broken melee award, and what melee Renoah has? She has L attack that is slower than most L attacks in game, and LR combo thats not even chained. so yeah her job is to keep her distance from enemies and use the sniper the best she can, nerfing its accuracy would be a bit too much.
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7djames7 6 Jan, 2014 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by -TM- adrift21:
I could agree on accuracy nerf for pistols, but her alt+R is fair giving that it takes 1 RP bar.

I was thinking more about a change to the alt+R itself rather than a nerf maybe where she pulls out the winchester and fires it directly infront of her hitting people in melee range. It would make her rely more on her teamates to protect her while she snipes and give her some survivablity when she gets caught. It would still cost 1 RP(maybe increase it to 2) so you can't rely on it either and just destroy everyone at melee range. It also wouldn't have a lot of range so you can't use it at a distance. It would however be quick enough to hit the opponent after they finish thier string and before they move away to intitiate another. Maybe also have a slowing affect so as to allow an escape, but if you include that then you will have to increase the RP usage to 2 or 3 and decrease the damage to about 25% of her current alt+R.
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GoukaSoshina 5 May, 2014 @ 4:56am 
First, is required to be disappear in a few meters L. There is no handgun that can attack the infinite distance. It is natural as much as the apple fall.
Second, it is necessary to lower the accuracy of the L. It can be said the same for power plane. Power is reduced if you strike the far basis. It is natural as much as the pear drops.
Third, do not to be able to guard all attacks.
Or, Should limit the attack distance. Or Should lower the power.
At least, Respawn point should be protected.

Finally, should remove the kick. should be vulnerable If there are no bullet.
If she trying to shoot a gun with no bullets, she should probably get stuck for a few seconds on the spot. reload too.
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エプシロン　フェイト 5 May, 2014 @ 6:55am 
A renoah's accuracy is all dependant on the player's aim. There is no need for a nerf there.

They just need to incorporate damage drop off on the pistols.

And change the Q skill to be used on targets that she locks onto on sight.

Her Q shouldnt target all targets on the map.

If they want to really be creative, they could change her Q to target ONE random (living) enemy on the map and deal massive damage.
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Taimatsu 5 May, 2014 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by -CT- SoundsLikeAPrick:
I could agree on accuracy nerf for pistols, but her alt+R is fair giving that it takes 1 RP bar. Every other champ you listed up there competes for the most broken melee award, and what melee Renoah has? She has L attack that is slower than most L attacks in game, and LR combo thats not even chained. so yeah her job is to keep her distance from enemies and use the sniper the best she can, nerfing its accuracy would be a bit too much.
What are you talking about her alt+R dosen't take RP it takes SP wut?
Last edited by Taimatsu; 5 May, 2014 @ 11:13am
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posture check 5 May, 2014 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Sazonde:
Originally posted by -CT- SoundsLikeAPrick:
I could agree on accuracy nerf for pistols, but her alt+R is fair giving that it takes 1 RP bar. Every other champ you listed up there competes for the most broken melee award, and what melee Renoah has? She has L attack that is slower than most L attacks in game, and LR combo thats not even chained. so yeah her job is to keep her distance from enemies and use the sniper the best she can, nerfing its accuracy would be a bit too much.
What are you talking about her alt+R dosen't take RP it takes SP wut?
You quoted a January post, alt used to cost RP instead of SP uring beta.
Last edited by posture check; 5 May, 2014 @ 12:41pm
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GoukaSoshina 5 May, 2014 @ 2:33pm 
Say easier to understand. ♥♥♥♥'n She should be deleted.
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エプシロン　フェイト 5 May, 2014 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by GoukaSoshina:
Say easier to understand. ♥♥♥♥'n She should be deleted.


No one needs to be removed/deleted from the game.

Keep in mind everyone, the game may have officially went live, but that was only a week ago.

This game is still a diamond in the rough. Just make suggestions to have champions fixed. Don't just ask for them to be removed from the game...
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GoukaSoshina 5 May, 2014 @ 4:57pm 
I was feeling a little on edge. Does not need to be removed.
Character like her would also be required for games like this.
I think that they should impose a penalty to attack when there is no bullet and that she reloads for the time being.
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エプシロン　フェイト 5 May, 2014 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by GoukaSoshina:
I was feeling a little on edge. Does not need to be removed.
Character like her would also be required for games like this.
I think that they should impose a penalty to attack when there is no bullet and that she reloads for the time being.



That sounds more like it!

i like the idea honestly =3
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