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Today I installed Pox Nora for the first time on the PC I'm currently using, launched it in Steam, and arrived at the login screen. Then a firewall message popped up, requesting in- and outbound connection. So far so good.

I had forgotten what my userid and password were and exited the game again, to look the information up. Because I wanted to get rid of the firewall pop up, I denied the request for one time, and thought this should be enough until I launched the game again. Wrong! A second later the message was back again. I repeated denying access (always for once, not permanently) a couple of times over several minutes, just to see if it would stop appearing - it didn't.

It means that Pox Nora is trying to access the internet from my PC although I have exited the application and denied it access to the internet. I didn't even do anything on the login screen.
Because I didn't want to see the pop up forever, I rebooted the PC.

Why does an application I terminated and denied it internet access keep requesting internet access?
By the way, just for fun I granted it one-time access a couple of times, too - didn't prevent the message from re-appearing.
How can this be? Trying to upload data from my PC to the internet? I never saw such a behaviour before.
Last edited by lonetrav; 1 Sep @ 2:39am
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akiboo 17 Sep @ 1:41pm 
sounds like existential problems ;)

and I must confess that I am not smart enough to understand your post ;)

and I could imagine that your post will not receive an acceptable response.
Because it's simply too "inaccurate" for my taste.

And someone who could and would actually want to answer your post would have to ask you various questions about your description first.

and some questions might perhaps create some "discomfort"?

And I really don't want to be rude, but details... details are always very, very important in order to be able to say anything at all about such technical "problems."

if there is a "problem" at all and the "problem" is not, as is far too often the case, sitting 10 centimeters in front of the screen. :2018salienbeast1:


One or two of these questions could be:

- But you do realize that with a PC connected to the Internet, "data" always flows in both directions?

or

- Do you know how to use a firewall correctly, or how to configure a firewall correctly? Or what action has what consequences, and so on and so forth?


And your sentence

"Because I didn't want to see the pop-up forever, I rebooted the PC."

and..or the procedure described there...

at least tells me that you might not know enough about the firewall you're using...?

Because if someone knew enough about their firewall, they wouldn't have to restart the entire PC to get rid of a "pop-up."

Someone who is familiar with their firewall would know why "Pop-Up XY" pops up, what it says, and how to make it disappear without shutting down the entire PC.


And in my total ignorance of all the technology we all use so subtly,

I actually find it logical and necessary that Pox Nora, especially on the login screen, wants, if not absolutely needs, internet access.

Because how else would the "Pox Nora server" (or whatever technology) verify the username and password? If you prevent Pox Nora from doing this via your firewall?

And in my stupidity and ignorance of how the different technologies, software, and other things work in detail.

Should I also ask you whether you handle this with all your games, software, and other things?

Have you ever denied Steam access to the Internet via your firewall?

Or

have you ever denied all of your favorite game X, Y, & Z access to the Internet via your firewall?

You should actually try it out to see how they react


Of course, stupid as I am, I can very well imagine that all the mainstream and mass-market software and games produced for millions of people have certain configurations in place so that, with all these things, your firewall rarely, if ever, bothers you with pop-ups asking whether you want to allow this or that game or this or that software access to the internet.

I mean, that's all possible; you can set your firewall to be "sensitive" or "strict" accordingly, but then you're just busy allowing or denying endless attempts to access the internet from your PC.

And the more I've written here... the more I wonder whether your post can be taken seriously at all... ??


It's a good thing that most people don't know what, when, and which data, and in what quantity, is sent to Microsoft...
Your firewall should react and ask you for permission or denial via pop-ups whenever Microsoft is sending data :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
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But that's all irrelevant, of course.
Some things you better not know


But it must be extremely dramatic when a game called "Pox Nora" requests internet access and some unknown firewall, for whatever reason, generates a pop-up.

Which is then rejected by the user of that firewall.:lunar2019crylaughingpig:


In any case, I can't answer your questions because I'm not a PC specialist, nor am I an expert on firewalls and their various configuration options.

especially since in most cases it is primarily Windows users (maybe mac users too) )who use or even have to use firewalls.

It doesn't solve your "problems," but maybe you'd like to consider changing your operating system ;)

because then a firewall might no longer be needed,

I have not had a firewall for years and therefore have not had any of your problems with pop-up

Windows users have such "worries"

The illusion of protection and security...
huu
and you have to have an antivirus program.
huu another illusion of protection and security

peace out and only the best wishes to you ;)

ich bin fertig :lunar2019smilingpig:
lonetrav 18 Sep @ 12:34am 
Originally posted by akiboo:
... I must confess that I am not smart enough to understand your post ...:
Nor am I smart enough to understand yours.

Just a simple question:
You start an application, then you exit it again without doing anything. It disappears from your task manager. But then your firewall tells you that the application you just terminated and which is not shown in the task manager anymore requests outbound internet access. You deny it the request (once), but the request pops up again immediately. This happens repeatedly (looks like an endless loop) and reproduceably (after rebooting the PC and trying again).
How comes?

Please don't tell me how I could configure my firewall to prevent it from happening, and don't tell me to use a different operating system. Just explain how this is possible - that an application which has been terminated keeps requesting outbound internet access.

If you find my description too "inaccurate", you're free to tell me where it's "inaccurate" and to ask questions (don't worry about "discomfort") - or simply ignore my post.
akiboo 18 Sep @ 11:08am 
As I said, I'm not smart enough to answer your question...


Perhaps your question is better suited to the Pox Nora forum. You can find a link to it on the Pox Nora website.
There's a "Tech Support" section there, where they might be able to answer your question.
For this forum, you either need login credentials, which may (and should) differ from your forgotten login credentials for the game or the Pox website.


If you don't have login credentials for the forum, you would have to register there to post there. Whether you want to do this is up to you, of course.... Without logging in, you can at best browse the mentioned section, and if you're lucky, the content of your question may have already been asked and answered there.


As an alternative to the forum, you could try to get an answer to your question in the Pox Discord channel; you can also find the link on the website.
Of course, this would require either having a Discord account or creating one... whether you want to do that is up to you, of course.
Not that I'm trying to tell you what to do again. ;)



If neither the forum nor Discord are an option for you... you'll have to be patient here.


With that in mind, happy creating.




(This message is explicitly not an "invitation" to register in any way on the mentioned sites!)

( Translated by "translate" from German to English, maybe not perfectly, but I think sufficiently well )
lonetrav 19 Sep @ 12:22am 
Thanks.
Something interesting happened yesterday: I found my old login data, hidden in an old file I thought I had merged with a newer one and then deleted. I don't know if they are still valid, but will test over the weekend.

I keep the number of platforms I use low, and I don't intend to register on several platforms just for one game. If I play Pox Nora, I play it on Steam, and if there is a problem I want to report or to discuss I use Steam (works well for my other Steam games). If the publishers or developers ignore a platform on which their game is available, it says a lot about these guys and their customer or user focus ...
I know that Pox Nora is a "free" game - except that I doubt it's really free, because it looks like players are paying with their data. It's my decision to accept this business model or not.

When I started this thread I hoped I would get either explanations or at least comments whether or not other players have had the same issue. Looks like this is not going to happen.
You could say what did you expect? Point taken. I don't really think there are many players who try to play a game like Pox Nora but use a firewall to block the game application from establishing an outbound connection. I myself did it only after I had realised that I didn't find my login data, wanted to exit Pox Nora and then got these odd firewall requests (I can think of several hypothetical explanations, some have to do with the game application, some with my own system).
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