Yeah, I would like to see those aspects of the game where you have to cast something over and over again changed. Like Awakening Buff. It's just tedious.

Recasting costs more than just mana though, it also ties up your casting points and effectively caps how many cities you can have it on at once. So your suggestion would be a buff to the spell and the tome it is in; do they actually need buffs?

You're not supposed to use it on the same city every turn you can. It costs mana, casting points and food. Pops are (albeit, as a cliche civ game style) used for boosts, not to mention resources.

If you intend to make up your pops with imperium purchases, you don't do it while the spell is running. You'll probably bleed all your gold off with that much production anyway.

I'm not just pulling this out of my opinion and experience, either. You might do this on easy mode. Watch a YouTube video though - you wouldn't be running this spell all the time on multiplayer or hard mode.

I don't know how long youve been playing - but production is not the single most valuable resource in the game. It's a good Tome, but you really can try other tomes than Zeal.

Heck, enchantment might not be fanatical workforce, but it's got enchantments than can be made cheap with the right society traits, provides draft, and is materium. It's not what it used to be, nut If you're not a diplomat or something, they're not unreasonable.

True that fanatical workforce eats up casting points, maybe put in a new spell upkeep, one that uses casting points every turn. In the case of fanatical workforce, it would be 15 casting points per turn (45 cp/3 turns). I'm just suggesting this because I don't want to have to keep casting the damned thing and going through all my cities to see which ones need it. As for the loss in food production, there would come a point where my cities make food in the hundreds, the -20 food cost doesn't really matter by then.

Originally posted by Melee Sniper:

I'm just suggesting this because I don't want to have to keep casting the damned thing and going through all my cities to see which ones need it.

Then you would look for a different play style. You don't want to run it on cities that don't need it. The same way you don't (or shouldn't) typically take pharmaceuticals you don't need. They have side effects.

I am most certainly not picking Tome of Zeal on a mystic culture. Maybe I theoretically could, since melee units are a pretty central unit type, and Zealots really aren't that bad an early summon in my experience. But I'm not.

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

You're not supposed to use it on the same city every turn you can. It costs mana, casting points and food. Pops are (albeit, as a cliche civ game style) used for boosts, not to mention resources.

If you intend to make up your pops with imperium purchases, you don't do it while the spell is running. You'll probably bleed all your gold off with that much production anyway.

I'm not just pulling this out of my opinion and experience, either. You might do this on easy mode. Watch a YouTube video though - you wouldn't be running this spell all the time on multiplayer or hard mode.

I don't know how long youve been playing - but production is not the single most valuable resource in the game. It's a good Tome, but you really can try other tomes than Zeal.

Heck, enchantment might not be fanatical workforce, but it's got enchantments than can be made cheap with the right society traits, provides draft, and is materium. It's not what it used to be, nut If you're not a diplomat or something, they're not unreasonable.

How do you value ressources? Because 60 food + 45 mana for 180 production looks like a bargain.

It also shines from the lack of competition in the field of spending mana towards economy, at least for starter tomes.

Haha, I forgot it wasn't a core thing yet. I've been using a mod for it for so long. :)