Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy

Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy

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evilauthor 21 Sep, 2023 @ 11:21am
It's been a long road (Trine 5 story spoilers and discussions)
I think the most surprising thing to me in this game is showing how much TIME has passed since the events of the First Game. Normally in games and other stories like Trine, players are only given the haziest notions of how much time has passed since a series started, and everyone stays more or less the same age since the series start, kinda like comic book time.

Not so in Trine, and this is best shown by Amadaeus' children. They were only born after the first game, I THINK they were still small children in the second game, and how in 5, they're young adults. And I think the figure of 10 years was mentioned in the story, but I forget in reference to what. Can't be Trine 1 since Amadaeus' children are clearly older than that.

The characters are aging, and I'm wondering if Amadaeus' children - 2 boys and a girl - are being set up to be the replacement heroes of Trine when the original three retire. The trick where the Heroes swap places with Amadaeus' children certainly suggest that the kids have been imbued with the same swapping magic.

Oh, and Zoya's gotten herself a girlfriend. Who shot her.
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Bobywan 21 Sep, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
Hopefully our heroes are not being replaced.
Also the children are 3 wizards and don't seem to fit any role similar to zoya and pontius.
evilauthor 21 Sep, 2023 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by Bobywan:
Hopefully our heroes are not being replaced.
Also the children are 3 wizards and don't seem to fit any role similar to zoya and pontius.

Yes, they're three wizards, but other than being able to cast fireballs, we know nothing about how they'd be able to fight or even what other spells they know.

It's also possible the kids will star in their own spin off. Maybe a 9 Parchments sequel.
Malidictus 24 Sep, 2023 @ 5:18am 
It also seems like Amadeus' marriage is pretty much over by this point. It was sort of a joke in the first game - the old "nagging wife" stereotype from 80s sitcoms. In 4 it started to feel pretty broken. In 5, they seem to be essentially divorced - albeit the game refuses to say that out loud.

Think about it, though. Amadeus has been forced out of his own home, essentially separated from his wife and family. Amadeus' relationship with his children is his character arc throughout the game. He clearly loves his kids and misses them, but feels unable to be with them. At the end, his arc is resolved with "I will always love you, no matter what happens between me and Margaret."

I see that as the story of a divorced dad estranged from his family trying to mend relations. Which, honestly, is about the best way to handle this sort of story. I don't know why the writers decided to go that route, but there really was no other good solution to the way Margaret was presented. None that I could see, anyway.



Originally posted by Bobywan:
Hopefully our heroes are not being replaced.
Also the children are 3 wizards and don't seem to fit any role similar to zoya and pontius.

If we get a Trine 6, I kind of wish it would go the way of the Lost Vikings: Norse by Norse-West. That is to say, introduce more characters and vary the team composition from level to leve.
Opal the Siamese 5 Jan, 2024 @ 11:29pm 
Originally posted by evilauthor:
I think the most surprising thing to me in this game is showing how much TIME has passed since the events of the First Game. Normally in games and other stories like Trine, players are only given the haziest notions of how much time has passed since a series started, and everyone stays more or less the same age since the series start, kinda like comic book time.

Not so in Trine, and this is best shown by Amadaeus' children. They were only born after the first game, I THINK they were still small children in the second game, and how in 5, they're young adults. And I think the figure of 10 years was mentioned in the story, but I forget in reference to what. Can't be Trine 1 since Amadaeus' children are clearly older than that.

The characters are aging, and I'm wondering if Amadaeus' children - 2 boys and a girl - are being set up to be the replacement heroes of Trine when the original three retire. The trick where the Heroes swap places with Amadaeus' children certainly suggest that the kids have been imbued with the same swapping magic.

Oh, and Zoya's gotten herself a girlfriend. Who shot her.
I like that side of Zoya it's the best variation. Usually she's just a sour sarcastic killing machine and now it'll be no wonder if she's lesibian (:
shakeyourbunny 6 Jan, 2024 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by Opal the Siamese:
I like that side of Zoya it's the best variation. Usually she's just a sour sarcastic killing machine and now it'll be no wonder if she's lesibian (:

That was shoehorned in in the last moment, unlike the siblings of Amadeus who aren't in any way looking similar to Amadeus (they were in 4).

The bad thing is also what focus the marketing department has, you just have to look at the points shop. The Trine characters are nowhere to be seen, but only the villains and the replaced kids.
Last edited by shakeyourbunny; 6 Jan, 2024 @ 1:41am
Michael 6 Jan, 2024 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by shakeyourbunny:
Originally posted by Opal the Siamese:
I like that side of Zoya it's the best variation. Usually she's just a sour sarcastic killing machine and now it'll be no wonder if she's lesibian (:

That was shoehorned in in the last moment, unlike the siblings of Amadeus who aren't in any way looking similar to Amadeus (they were in 4).

The bad thing is also what focus the marketing department has, you just have to look at the points shop. The Trine characters are nowhere to be seen, but only the villains and the replaced kids.

Pretty sure they're not on the points shop as emoticons because they already were for Trine 4?
Opal the Siamese 6 Jan, 2024 @ 11:28pm 
Originally posted by shakeyourbunny:
Originally posted by Opal the Siamese:
I like that side of Zoya it's the best variation. Usually she's just a sour sarcastic killing machine and now it'll be no wonder if she's lesibian (:

That was shoehorned in in the last moment, unlike the siblings of Amadeus who aren't in any way looking similar to Amadeus (they were in 4).

The bad thing is also what focus the marketing department has, you just have to look at the points shop. The Trine characters are nowhere to be seen, but only the villains and the replaced kids.
It kind of feels that the children aren't triplets at all, or come from the same father. Well, Agnes looks at least fourteen, Julius looks a bit younger and is a total copy of Cornelius, and Lucious looks AT LEAST sixteen. This is all very weird.
shakeyourbunny 7 Jan, 2024 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Michael:
Pretty sure they're not on the points shop as emoticons because they already were for Trine 4?

If they are (didn't check) they could just have done a variation of these and everybody would be happy.

Also, if I would be someone who is new to the Trine series and lured to the game with this (which is one of their intentions of their marketing), when I was browsing the point shop, I'd ask myself why the heroes are missing. Instead there are some side characters present and the villains of the story?!?

This is really missing and I don't think that if they just use the other stuff from the other games, redress them a bit and easy peasy new stuff there.
shakeyourbunny 7 Jan, 2024 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Opal the Siamese:
It kind of feels that the children aren't triplets at all, or come from the same father. Well, Agnes looks at least fourteen, Julius looks a bit younger and is a total copy of Cornelius, and Lucious looks AT LEAST sixteen. This is all very weird.

Yeah the three kids are really portrayed in a strange way in the game, especially if they don't have not some visible features or traits from their father.
Last edited by shakeyourbunny; 7 Jan, 2024 @ 7:37am
Opal the Siamese 7 Jan, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by shakeyourbunny:
Originally posted by Opal the Siamese:
It kind of feels that the children aren't triplets at all, or come from the same father. Well, Agnes looks at least fourteen, Julius looks a bit younger and is a total copy of Cornelius, and Lucious looks AT LEAST sixteen. This is all very weird.

Yeah the three kids are really portrayed in a strange way in the game, especially if they don't have not some visible features or traits from their father.
That's true. Each of them looks different and thinks differently: Agnes is the hopeful one, Lucious is the smart one and Jusius is the one who hates everything. Amadeus doesn't have any of those traits, and that is pretty suspicious.
Opal the Siamese 9 Jan, 2024 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Michael:
Originally posted by shakeyourbunny:

That was shoehorned in in the last moment, unlike the siblings of Amadeus who aren't in any way looking similar to Amadeus (they were in 4).

The bad thing is also what focus the marketing department has, you just have to look at the points shop. The Trine characters are nowhere to be seen, but only the villains and the replaced kids.

Pretty sure they're not on the points shop as emoticons because they already were for Trine 4?
I guess so, but they aren't even on the trading cards, and they are always supposed to be. Instead of them are a few NPCs that you barely noticed exist.
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