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WallOfSleep 19 Nov @ 4:00am
Most rigged game in gaming history?
I have 4 tier 10 SPGs and need 12,000,000 credits to get 2 more I have unlocked - but it is impossible to accumulate those credits. Using basic ammo if our team loses I lose anywhere from 20-40K Credits a game, if our team wins I may gain 1-20K tops - sometimes even negative on a win - regardless of how much damage I do or regardless of how many kills I have, this occurred even when I had free premium and free reserves (I quit for a few years because it was so rigged and came back to see if it still was - It was). Its not a skill thing, its a rigged game thing. So any new players out there. This is a pay to play game that is rigged in every way a game can be rigged. If you think its going to get better when you hit tier 10 because they can no longer put you 2 tiers under in a match you're wrong, they will screw you in other ways. Their game is to let you win at first to sucker you in then slam you to get you to pay money.

Think about World of Tanks as a Casino where the House openly cheats in your face and there is nothing you can do about it. The best thing you can do is NOT enter the door. You may think you can beat the house but you can't unless they decide to let you.
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WallOfSleep 19 Nov @ 5:11am 
For example last game played. Object 261, 2 kills, 3,400 Damage, fired 11 basic shots, #1 ranked player on team, Team lost, I lost 19,000 credits.

Game is not worth playing - you have been warned.
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8_Hussars 19 Nov @ 6:03am 
The game economy is designed to break even/lose credits at Tier 10 even with premium time. This was ostensibly to sell Tier 8 Premium tanks.

The game loop has always been to successfully play lower tiers; in order to to grind credits for higher Tier play.
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Fat Atom 19 Nov @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by WallOfSleep:
I have 4 tier 10 SPGs and need 12,000,000 credits to get 2 more I have unlocked - but it is impossible to accumulate those credits. Using basic ammo if our team loses I lose anywhere from 20-40K Credits a game, if our team wins I may gain 1-20K tops - sometimes even negative on a win - regardless of how much damage I do or regardless of how many kills I have, this occurred even when I had free premium and free reserves (I quit for a few years because it was so rigged and came back to see if it still was - It was). Its not a skill thing, its a rigged game thing. So any new players out there. This is a pay to play game that is rigged in every way a game can be rigged. If you think its going to get better when you hit tier 10 because they can no longer put you 2 tiers under in a match you're wrong, they will screw you in other ways. Their game is to let you win at first to sucker you in then slam you to get you to pay money.

Think about World of Tanks as a Casino where the House openly cheats in your face and there is nothing you can do about it. The best thing you can do is NOT enter the door. You may think you can beat the house but you can't unless they decide to let you.

Yeah .. I have to agree ..

The more I play this game the more weird mechanics I witness ..

Has to be a contrived rigging process going on ..
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Dane 20 Nov @ 8:03am 
They certainly set the standard for game rigging and questionable gaming ethics.
This is like WG selling steroids to contestants at sporting events.
Last edited by Dane; 20 Nov @ 8:16am
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Rod 20 Nov @ 8:17am 
I think its illegal. Its gambling and the game should not be accessable to under 18s and Wargaming should require a license for gambling.


You can buy lootboxes with random tanks basic 101 gambling. You buy a tank and queue up and gamble on what tier you face. You buy ammo with real money and the game has a built in + and - 25% rng on shots and damage and penetration values aka gambling.


Vulnerable adults and children are very lured in by the rng and stats and not wanting to lose and so they spend more money and no one does any inspections on the product as a regulator.
Last edited by Rod; 20 Nov @ 8:19am
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Dane 20 Nov @ 8:53am 
Yeah, these matches are akin to letting trans men compete against females in sporting events.

Funny how certain times of the night 6-12 pm I seem to bounce over 1/2 my rounds-Does that mean my gun is only effective outside of this time frame.
Sounds legit and not rigged.
Last edited by Dane; 20 Nov @ 3:40pm
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Silence 20 Nov @ 9:55am 
The top tier game really isn't known for its profitability. This is known, even to the average level player. But still, it would be very interesting to see the post-fight report in a battle in which for 2 frags and 3400 damage the respected author went to -19k. Then maybe I would advise something useful to our comrade.

And as for “Casino” and “Gambling” For starters, study what it is, and then you will realize that tanks are not a casino.
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Dane 20 Nov @ 11:43am 
Instead of blowing smoke up everyones' backside and giving us potential ass cancer, why don't you just fix the game and acquire some ethics and fair gaming practices.
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Fat Atom 20 Nov @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Silence:
Then maybe I would advise something useful to our comrade.

I doubt it ..
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Rod 20 Nov @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by Silence:
The top tier game really isn't known for its profitability. This is known, even to the average level player. But still, it would be very interesting to see the post-fight report in a battle in which for 2 frags and 3400 damage the respected author went to -19k. Then maybe I would advise something useful to our comrade.

And as for “Casino” and “Gambling” For starters, study what it is, and then you will realize that tanks are not a casino.

You are wrong sorry he is right you subjected him to rng he doesnt and can not control the -1 +1 matchmaker or the rng on his shots etc your system rolls a dice thats facts and part of the game and so is spending money so whys it that different from a casino? You spend money, You fire a shot and the games does the calculations just like a slot machine.


This isnt even debatable, Now in legal terms sure its hard to prove and the definitions a grey area for games but why did Belgium ban your loot boxes then? The game isnt free to play players have to spend money. I bought premium recently and i fired four shots in tortoise at a tier 8 premium all four shots bounced now i know how to aim what happened here is your system rolled the dice against me four times in a row for -25% penetration. The entire games based on this mechanic. The christmas lootboxes will again contain random tanks and the recent elite sale asked you to spend 250 gold for a random ingame offer now considering gold can only be purchased therefor this is a gambling mechanic.
Last edited by Rod; 20 Nov @ 11:07pm
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New To This 21 Nov @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Silence:
The top tier game really isn't known for its profitability. This is known, even to the average level player. But still, it would be very interesting to see the post-fight report in a battle in which for 2 frags and 3400 damage the respected author went to -19k. Then maybe I would advise something useful to our comrade.

And as for “Casino” and “Gambling” For starters, study what it is, and then you will realize that tanks are not a casino.
"this is known"
Yeah, and HATED.
Stop leaving out the fact it is DESPISED for this.
It is known and HATED for its game failing design flaw.
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Gohan Creates - PromCreations 22 Nov @ 10:32am 
Since I quit this game, I have lost a lot of stress and anxiety and rage. I advise everyone to do the same. Why put your stress through the ringer dealing with cheaters, unbalanced EOMM bs, gambling and p2w mechanics. Scamgaming knows their days are numbered and are just milking these games till the milk runs dry.

Everyone that hated the direction Wargaming was going are just patiently waiting for Steel Aces. It is literally taking best of Warthunder, Armored Warfare and Wot, and excluding all the bad and making a great MOBA tank game.

It's going to have SBMM, not EOMM, no +2 tier bs MM, tanks will be ERA locked unlike it is in Warthunder, and no p2w bs. Yes it will have things like a membership if you want to earn xp and coins faster, but it won't be promoting p2w tanks and stuff that has ruined games like wot, warthunder and armored warfare.

And it will also not have FOMO bs either and not to mention the devs are making their own custom anti cheat and having moderators 24/7 watching matches to stop cheating.
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Dane 25 Nov @ 3:46pm 
More questionable matches tonight AMX recons invisible in open desert 50 meters away penning me until I'm dead then like magic they are visible again. Where do I buy that perk?

50% pen rate all night that's even if I can hit tanks at all, I have a tank with 4 crew skills for the gunner and my shots are all over the place. The BS just gets worse and worse WG Your game is broken and your lying shills are morons.
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Fat Atom 25 Nov @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by Dane:
More questionable matches tonight AMX recons invisible in open desert 50 meters away penning me until I'm dead then like magic they are visible again. Where do I buy that perk?

50% pen rate all night that's even if I can hit tanks at all, I have a tank with 4 crew skills for the gunner and my shots are all over the place. The BS just gets worse and worse WG Your game is broken and your lying shills are morons.

Yeah .. Same here ..

I just don't play it as much now .. its total garbage ..

Far better games to play .. :)
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Rod 25 Nov @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by Dane:
More questionable matches tonight AMX recons invisible in open desert 50 meters away penning me until I'm dead then like magic they are visible again. Where do I buy that perk?

50% pen rate all night that's even if I can hit tanks at all, I have a tank with 4 crew skills for the gunner and my shots are all over the place. The BS just gets worse and worse WG Your game is broken and your lying shills are morons.

See my thread on mediums and lights being busted its normal to have this happen. It cannot be 50m though but yea they can stay invis and farm you all day long. Are you playing a td or heavy you must be for this to happen.
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