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Nixmachine 2020 年 11 月 22 日 上午 3:18
Asking for help with remaining achievements - mild spoilers included !
Currently,
- I saw two endings (related with achievement "Unreal Life" and "Paranoia")
- Won against 195 on all Levels on the same save
- Drew all the stuff Scull mentioned related to VOLTA (related with achievement "VOLTA pro") on a different save

I'm trying to fish for other achievements on a new save, but if someone already got these achievements, it would be nice to know how to get them !


EDIT: Thanks for all the help guys !
最后由 Nixmachine 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 8 日 下午 11:28
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RobinBawss 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 3:32 
Is there any more detail on unlocking Singularity? No matter which combo of switches I use (And I actually charted them all to make sure), the locker key doesn't unlock the locker. There must be something missing, like inventory, did you carry all the books? None? Did you skip part of a puzzle? Did you start from chapter 0 and went all the way to that chapter? What other details can we gather? I've been trying for a bunch of hours, completed the game and unlocked all endings, so what else is there that we could share for this one? I'll keep trying my ideas, but if anyone has an answer, please post.
Tetta 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 4:45 
引用自 RobinBawss
Is there any more detail on unlocking Singularity? No matter which combo of switches I use (And I actually charted them all to make sure), the locker key doesn't unlock the locker. There must be something missing, like inventory, did you carry all the books? None? Did you skip part of a puzzle? Did you start from chapter 0 and went all the way to that chapter? What other details can we gather? I've been trying for a bunch of hours, completed the game and unlocked all endings, so what else is there that we could share for this one? I'll keep trying my ideas, but if anyone has an answer, please post.

Not Start 0 chapter start. phantom library start OK. Locker unlock pattern is random...maybe


If you try all patterns and it doesn't work, With the locker key talk Mouse.



RobinBawss 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 5:27 
引用自 Tetta
引用自 RobinBawss
Is there any more detail on unlocking Singularity? No matter which combo of switches I use (And I actually charted them all to make sure), the locker key doesn't unlock the locker. There must be something missing, like inventory, did you carry all the books? None? Did you skip part of a puzzle? Did you start from chapter 0 and went all the way to that chapter? What other details can we gather? I've been trying for a bunch of hours, completed the game and unlocked all endings, so what else is there that we could share for this one? I'll keep trying my ideas, but if anyone has an answer, please post.

Not Start 0 chapter start. phantom library start OK. Locker unlock pattern is random...maybe


If you try all patterns and it doesn't work, With the locker key talk Mouse.

I started from chapter 0, went all the way to that point in the game, got the key, got back to Stein (the mouse), talked to him, went down to the locker, tried every possible combos of switches and still nothing when I tried unlocking it. So I'm going to start from the library chapter and do it again, but I already did all that and it just didn't work. I'm gonna talk to Stein again one more time and try again as well, but it's just not opening.

EDIT: wait... Phantom Library? You mean Mirage Library, right?
最后由 RobinBawss 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 5:35
Blackjazz 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:07 
引用自 RobinBawss
Is there any more detail on unlocking Singularity? No matter which combo of switches I use (And I actually charted them all to make sure), the locker key doesn't unlock the locker. There must be something missing, like inventory, did you carry all the books? None? Did you skip part of a puzzle? Did you start from chapter 0 and went all the way to that chapter? What other details can we gather? I've been trying for a bunch of hours, completed the game and unlocked all endings, so what else is there that we could share for this one? I'll keep trying my ideas, but if anyone has an answer, please post.

Actually, I don't understand how it works myself, lol. Started from the beginning for the last two achievements, and this time door did not open like before. I just tried different options and it opened when all levers were off, so my guess the number of pulls or their order is important here. Be sure to interact with the rabbit that held the key a second time, you will hear a sound like completing puzzle. I also pushed shelf right after entrance and raised door on second floor of the library next to teleport, but I don't think it's important
RobinBawss 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 8:52 
Alright, thanks, I'll give that a shot, I'll also try to see if I can figure out how the switches work.

Update: I was finally able to use the key. The way I did was following the steps that megaomnislash told me. As for the switch, it happened when I flipped the 3rd switch from the right a bunch of times, about 10 times (on and off, on and off). At that point I didn't know what to do, had spent a few minutes trying random ways of flipping switches and that's when it unlocked when I used the key. I assume that flipping that specific switch a bunch of times might have triggered it. If that doesn't work for someone, let me know, but I think we're on the right track here.
3rd from the right, flip on and off a bunch of times, I'd say try 20 or so times (10 on and 10 off or something) see if we get it consistently.
最后由 RobinBawss 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 5 日 下午 9:30
sauce 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 9:02 
引用自 RobinBawss
Alright, thanks, I'll give that a shot, I'll also try to see if I can figure out how the switches work.

Update: I was finally able to use the key. The way I did was following the steps that megaomnislash told me. As for the switch, it happened when I flipped the 3rd switch from the right a bunch of times, about 10 times (on and off, on and off). At that point I didn't know what to do, had spent a few minutes trying random ways of flipping switches and that's when it unlocked when I used the key. I assume that flipping that specific switch a bunch of times might have triggered it. If that doesn't work for someone, let me know, but I think we're on the right track here.
3rd from the right, flip on and off a bunch of times, I'd say try 20 or so times (10 on and 10 off or something) see if we get it consistently.

Tried all possible switch combinations and flipped the rightmost one a bunch of times but every time it just says the key doesn't fit.
RobinBawss 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 9:39 
引用自 sauce
引用自 RobinBawss
Alright, thanks, I'll give that a shot, I'll also try to see if I can figure out how the switches work.

Update: I was finally able to use the key. The way I did was following the steps that megaomnislash told me. As for the switch, it happened when I flipped the 3rd switch from the right a bunch of times, about 10 times (on and off, on and off). At that point I didn't know what to do, had spent a few minutes trying random ways of flipping switches and that's when it unlocked when I used the key. I assume that flipping that specific switch a bunch of times might have triggered it. If that doesn't work for someone, let me know, but I think we're on the right track here.
3rd from the right, flip on and off a bunch of times, I'd say try 20 or so times (10 on and 10 off or something) see if we get it consistently.

Tried all possible switch combinations and flipped the rightmost one a bunch of times but every time it just says the key doesn't fit.

In my post update, I mention flipping the 3rd from the right, not the rightmost one. Try the 3rd from the right, aka the first red one from the left a bunch of times. I'm not sure if that's the solution yet but hopefully we're getting close to a proper solution.

On another note, I found a cat, but still missing 2 achievements and I'm not sure where to look. Somehow I feel they don't happen in the locker...

UPDATE: I tried to open the locker again using this method, but no dice, so back to the drawing board...
最后由 RobinBawss 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 上午 10:51
sauce 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 12:45 
引用自 RobinBawss

In my post update, I mention flipping the 3rd from the right, not the rightmost one. Try the 3rd from the right, aka the first red one from the left a bunch of times. I'm not sure if that's the solution yet but hopefully we're getting close to a proper solution.

Yeah, I misread. But that didn't work either.
Where did you get the cat? I found the book and then finished the game again but didn't find it.
Was it on the same save in which you opened the locker?
Harle 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:22 
I managed to fit the key in the lock once (all switches were down and I activated the left one last) but no luck doing it again T_T

I'm starting to wonder if the switches might have something to do with the electrical-ish symbols on the doors: https://i.imgur.com/y9UQXuE.png
There's 1 symbol on its own on the left and 3 grouped together on the right, like the switches. Might be a coincidence but eh... And I have no clue what to make of it.

I wonder if the yellow/red lights might be a clue too. To turn on the roof shower, you must turn on the yellow light and turn off the red light. But then again, I'm at a dead end. Turning on all the yellow and off the red (even the one in the library) didn't work :x

I even tried to identify the melody that plays in the locker room (it seems very simple) and "play" it with the switches as if it were a piano but to no avail. I think I'll stop here for tonight lol.
最后由 Harle 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:47
sauce 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:25 
I tried to see if the combination was based on the current system time with hh:mm and the lights representing even/odd but that doesn't seem to be the case either.
I have no idea what it could be then.
Harle 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:37 
I managed to fit the locker key again, after trying random combinations for more than half an hour. It's like the combination is random and changes each time you try to fit the key, I have no idea if there's any logic behind it :lunar2019deadpanpig:
This time, the last switch I flipped was the 2nd from the left and in the end, they were all up. But their position at the end doesn't even matter since everybody ends up with different combinations.
Anyway, this time, I made a manual save and THEN, I backed it up. I don't want to lose it again :winter2019joyfultearssnowman:

But seriously, if there's a logic in this, I'd be happy to know about it because I'm completely stumped.
最后由 Harle 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:41
sauce 2020 年 12 月 7 日 上午 7:29 
引用自 Harle
I managed to fit the locker key again, after trying random combinations for more than half an hour. It's like the combination is random and changes each time you try to fit the key, I have no idea if there's any logic behind it :lunar2019deadpanpig:
I spent almost an hour testing 2 different theories
1: Every time you try to unlock it the correct combination is a different one. For this I left the levers unchanged and repeatedly tried to open the locker but it didn't work.
2: Every time any of the levers change the correct combination is a different one. Here I just flipped one switch (always the same one), tried to unlock, rinse and repeat.

Afterwards I repeatedly tried every possible combination again but I could not get it to unlock.
I refuse to believe that it's entirely RNG based, there has to be a hint given elsewhere.

Edit: This was with an old save, mind you. I started from #3. I will try again on a new save.
最后由 sauce 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 7 日 上午 8:47
Harle 2020 年 12 月 7 日 上午 9:32 
Yeah, it'd be weird if it was completely random.
By the way, the 2 times I fit the key, I started from chapter #3. I never started from scratch.
sauce 2020 年 12 月 7 日 上午 9:42 
引用自 Harle
Yeah, it'd be weird if it was completely random.
By the way, the 2 times I fit the key, I started from chapter #3. I never started from scratch.
I guess that could also mean that there's a prerequisite somewhere in the first chapters that you got on your save but I did not. But I'm not sure. I had all the achievements related to those early chapters at least.

Edit: Got the key and went through all possible combinations several times again but still no luck.
Edit2: Yeah, I just can't get it to work no matter what I try. Spent a couple hours on this but no amount of combinations and random switching does it for me.
最后由 sauce 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 7 日 下午 1:11
nomnomcat 2020 年 12 月 7 日 下午 2:26 
We're running under the assumption that the last 4 achievements are part of the same sequence? Going by what Megaomnislash said, the cat doesn’t appear until the Unreal Life end, so it would follow that The Truth would happen after that.

The achievement itself looks like a newspaper clipping, so I’m guessing it’s going to be in the library, especially since there’s the book that mentions the boy and the cat. Hal might comment when reading it after the cat achievement.

From there, I’m guessing Casual Exception will be something you do at the *very* end.
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