yes, it will be amazing to finally see this company die and all of it's fanboys cry

Yeah, saw this in the news.

They're trying to buy the parent company Kadokawa. Just in talks for now...

Remember when Microsoft tried to buy Nintendo?

Whole thing is goofy.

not gonna click garbage clickbait links but sony wants to buy kadokawa, not fromsoft directly, not the same thing

Bloodborne PC port never.

I hope this fails.

Lord Bob lähetti viestin:

Bloodborne PC port never.

what? if anything them buying it would make bloodborne port more likely as sony could just tell fromsoft to port it without having to rely on a studio that isn't familiar with the engine, sony owns the rights to bloodborne

This seems to be focused in on Kadakowa's anime business as it is Sony aquiring not SIE. Of course the long term consequences are hard to say. We'll see if the courts in Japan allow this as the consolidation of Anime distribution would be pretty blatant. Never a fan of consolidation in general...

faktisch unmöglich das sony den konzern übernimmt da nur ein Bruchteil der aktien am markt sind. soweit bekannt hält sony nicht annähernd genug anteile, der mutterkonzern von fromsoft hält nach wie vor 46,57 % der gehandelten aktien und denkt derzeit auch nicht über einen verkauf nach. zusammen mit den anteilen von Kadokawa selbst besteht weiterhin eine mehrkeit von 48,64 % der gehandelten shares.
mal abgesehen davon, dass weitere shares gar nicht gehandelt werden
520000000 shares
am markt
141,784,120 shares
macht also insgesamt 444.516.000 shares in hand von
KADOKAWA was einer aktienmehrheit vom 85,49 % entspricht.

sony ist mit 2,01% einer von zwei klein anteilseignern.

derzeitige shareholders:
The Master Trust Bank of Japan, Ltd 11,98%
KSD-NH 8,91^%
GOLDMAN SACHS INTERNATIONAL 7,29 %
Custody Bank of Japan, Ltd. 5,87%
Nobuo Kawakami 5,8%
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION 2,89 %
Nippon Life Insurance Co. 2,42%
BANDAI NAMCO Holdings Inc. 2,17 %
Tsuguhiko Kadokawa 2,07%
CyberAgent, Inc. 2,01%
Sony 2,01%


It is actually impossible for Sony to take over the company because only a fraction of the shares are on the market. As far as we know, Sony does not hold nearly enough shares, the parent company of Fromsoft still holds 46.57% of the traded shares and is not currently considering a sale. Together with the shares of Kadokawa itself, there is still a majority of 48.64% of the traded shares.

Apart from the fact that other shares are not traded at all
520000000 shares
on the market
141,784,120 shares
so a total of 444,516,000 shares in the hands of

KADOKAWA, which corresponds to a majority of 85.49%.

Sony is one of two small shareholders with 2.01%.

current shareholders:
The Master Trust Bank of Japan, Ltd 11.98%
KSD-NH 8.91%
GOLDMAN SACHS INTERNATIONAL 7.29%
Custody Bank of Japan, Ltd. 5.87%
Nobuo Kawakami 5.8%
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION
2.89% Nippon Life Insurance Co. 2.42%
BANDAI NAMCO Holdings Inc. 2.17%
Tsuguhiko Kadokawa 2.07%
CyberAgent, Inc. 2.01%
Sony 2.01%

n0tj0sh33 lähetti viestin:

This seems to be focused in on Kadakowa's anime business as it is Sony aquiring not SIE. Of course the long term consequences are hard to say. We'll see if the courts in Japan allow this as the consolidation of Anime distribution would be pretty blatant. Never a fan of consolidation in general...

I mean, with Sony already being an effective monopoly, and Japanese sentiment being pro "Nintendo" with regards to patenting game mechanics... I really think they'll allow it.

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Lord Bob lähetti viestin:

Bloodborne PC port never.

what? if anything them buying it would make bloodborne port more likely as sony could just tell fromsoft to port it without having to rely on a studio that isn't familiar with the engine, sony owns the rights to bloodborne

But they're buying Kodakawa, not Fromsoft, it's different, right?

Darth Invader lähetti viestin:

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what? if anything them buying it would make bloodborne port more likely as sony could just tell fromsoft to port it without having to rely on a studio that isn't familiar with the engine, sony owns the rights to bloodborne

But they're buying Kodakawa, not Fromsoft, it's different, right?

they simply can not buy kadokawa

Darth Invader lähetti viestin:

But they're buying Kodakawa, not Fromsoft, it's different, right?

kadokawa own 70% of fromsoft

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Darth Invader lähetti viestin:

But they're buying Kodakawa, not Fromsoft, it's different, right?

kadokawa own 70% of fromsoft

How could Sony "just tell them to port Bloodborne" then?

just to add the official shareholder information from kadokawa itself

https://group.kadokawa.co.jp/global/ir/stock/info.html

as anyone can see there are only 27.27% of the shares of kadokawa on the market available there is no way to buy them at all

Darth Invader lähetti viestin:

How could Sony "just tell them to port Bloodborne" then?

sony already have 14% stake in fromsoft, buying kadokawa would put then at 84% stake, making them majority share

dark-breed lähetti viestin:

just to add the official shareholder information from kadokawa itself

https://group.kadokawa.co.jp/global/ir/stock/info.html

as anyone can see there are only 27.27% of the shares of kadokawa on the market available there is no way to buy them at all

Doesn't mean anything if Kadokawa is willing to liquidate.