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The co op mod killed the game and should be bannable with the next update
Firstly. We all know the co op mod was made by and for people who haven’t played a Soulsborne game before. The already neutrd invasions were still too much for their tourist hearts.

Second. The mod goes against what the game is intended to be played as. When you summon help, you make up for that with extra boss health and being open to invasions. This still doesn’t make it anywhere near as hard as doing it solo. But the mod makes it even easier and cheats to avoid game mechanics.

Third. It has a negative impact on the playerbase as legitimate players without the mod cannot find invasions or co op at all.

I believe and hope this kind of thing will be disallowed soon. For the good of the game and community.
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Originally posted by Shadowlord:
From the beginning i thought it was very sad cuz it changed the game into what the mainstream wanted it to be, a coop game like borderlands...
As a fan since all the way in 2016 as a kid playing his first real big video game, dark souls 3 was my first major experience with the AAA gaming scene (even tho i was probably too young for it) and i loved every part of it even tho i cooped mostly and was a total noob for the first 3-4 years playing it consistantly, the invasions were hilarious and the community was great...

Fast forward 6 years and elden ring came out and i was excited only to find out the community is dog poo because of streamlining, invasions are done for and ppl only play with coop mod...

i played the dark souls trilogy, bloodborne, demons souls and sekiro for dozens of playthtoughs over YEARS, but with elden ring, i basically stopped playing after 4 months and could never bother coming back.
This might be an L cope whatever, but i am frustrated with this game and its community. I dont think coop mod should be banned, the first mistake on this game's life cycle was streamlining it. The game obv brought in lots of newbies and they shaped elden ring into a game that elden ring wasnt intended to be by the devs, and the problem lies there. Streamlining a more niche game rarely makes it better in the eyes of older fans, and thats the price that was paid.
I wont be replying to comments because i know the majority which is the newbies will give backlash, youre free to think whatever you want, you werent there in 2016 so i cant blame you.
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RyuKazé 27 May, 2023 @ 3:38pm 
Originally posted by csand:
👍 Everything has to be an arguement or an attack with you guys, it's wild
You notice you quoted me and level this gem:
Originally posted by csand:
"small handful of terminally online capital Gs and habitual arguers who are invested in this"
I haven't attacked you in anyway. I told you be respectful, and you won't have issues.
Deleted posts will still leave your quotes lying around somewhere lol
#736
zero 27 May, 2023 @ 3:48pm 
it is very funny how its been months and people still think the mod is affecting them, its a bit silly.

let people play how they like, the base game didn't disappear if thats your prefrence.
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XxX_pR0G3ym3R69_xXx [FaZe] 27 May, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
Don't be upset at a mod creator providing the fans something the developers are negligent towards, be upset at the negligent developers who butchered invasions in the first place.
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Necromanu Shi Atat 27 May, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
Ok First of all because i see people are here for destroying a niche game ,, which thats never Elden Ring needed , enough all summons made game walk in the park ,,

But when you do a mod and i tell you that because i work in domain of Laws,

All people say is Legit Mod ,, no it is not ,, and i will tell you why

Because when you do a mod player under servers ,, you do hijacking playerbase and this could do if Fromsoft or Namco want .. send you in jail and trust me if you go there you will never go make mods again and also you pay a fine of 500.000 or more for damage the game and allterate the way was inteded as a play

What said Miazaki when create Dark Souls ,, it said the idea of co op is when you are stuck in snow with your car and some random people help you to unstuck and then everyone gone home

So stop ruining the game and play as intended ,, be grateful because that smart guy they create a new genre for us to play ,, and no more boring games and easy ones


There are still copy of souls games ,, but never will be that good

So for people buy Elden Ring without knowing is a hard game ,, was a mistake
if you are no ready to learn from your deaths you should play some Assasin's Creed or other stupid 3 year child game
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Necromanu Shi Atat 27 May, 2023 @ 4:20pm 
oh and other stuff as a friend working in IT ,, this mod can be ban in 1 finger slip and all users say bye bye to online for 180 days or more

They don't need your personal info , they need only your HWID and you are gone ,, if in your game is discovered only on dll or something you are banned

And a leak i will no say source ,, this mod will be disappear from nexus and you will never heard about that guy ,, when DLC of game is released copy this message and save it
#740
vamirez 27 May, 2023 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by Mugen Majimq:
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
Ok First of all because i see people are here for destroying a niche game ,, which thats never Elden Ring needed , enough all summons made game walk in the park ,,

But when you do a mod and i tell you that because i work in domain of Laws,

All people say is Legit Mod ,, no it is not ,, and i will tell you why

Because when you do a mod player under servers ,, you do hijacking playerbase and this could do if Fromsoft or Namco want .. send you in jail and trust me if you go there you will never go make mods again and also you pay a fine of 500.000 or more for damage the game and allterate the way was inteded as a play
No, i no go to jail, I am a police officer. I am going to arrest Miyazaki for not making good coop on game, he will then pay me 500,000 for my trouble.
i am the law!

Well, let me put it this way - the likelihood of Mugen arresting Miyazaki is the same as people going for jail for using a mod, whether it interacts with non-official servers or not.

Some ppl are either making jokes or have no clue about how the world works. And I know unfortunately that the no-clue thing is very common...
Last edited by vamirez; 27 May, 2023 @ 4:38pm
#741
zero 27 May, 2023 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
But when you do a mod and i tell you that because i work in domain of Laws,
then cite the law its breaking my dude, lmao.

its not a crime to modify content you own.

it doesn't even break the ToS
#742
RyuKazé 27 May, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
Ok First of all because i see people are here for destroying a niche game ,, which thats never Elden Ring needed , enough all summons made game walk in the park ,,
Elden Ring is not considered a niche game. Niche games don't sell more than 20 million copies sold and rack up basically 400 awards.
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
But when you do a mod and i tell you that because i work in domain of Laws,

All people say is Legit Mod ,, no it is not ,, and i will tell you why

Because when you do a mod player under servers ,, you do hijacking playerbase and this could do if Fromsoft or Namco want .. send you in jail and trust me if you go there you will never go make mods again and also you pay a fine of 500.000 or more for damage the game and allterate the way was inteded as a play
Every mod alters for better or worse the gameplay from it's original.
There are Dark Souls mods[www.nexusmods.com]Dark Souls 2 mods[www.nexusmods.com]Dark Souls 3 mods[www.nexusmods.com] which have been up for years and of course, Elden Ring mods.[www.nexusmods.com]
How many years till FS steps in? Also, with the Seamless mod, once it's in the wild, that's it. How is FS going to send you to jail for not connecting to their server? You do understand that this works over P2P, right?

Do you know what else splits the playerbase? Other games. What if I decided to stop playing ER and go play God of War, would Officer Miyazaki throw me in jail and give me a $500,000 fine too? What about if I decided to play less and focus on work? My job has split a singular portion of the playerbase, should I be contacting corporate for a lawyer?
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
What said Miazaki when create Dark Souls ,, it said the idea of co op is when you are stuck in snow with your car and some random people help you to unstuck and then everyone gone home
That would be fine and I don't think anyone would have a problem like that. There's just a minor issue of, whilst everyone is helping each other out of the snow, there's an unsavory character in the shadows planning to rob you and send you home in a pine box.
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
So stop ruining the game and play as intended ,, be grateful because that smart guy they create a new genre for us to play ,, and no more boring games and easy ones


There are still copy of souls games ,, but never will be that good

So for people buy Elden Ring without knowing is a hard game ,, was a mistake
if you are no ready to learn from your deaths you should play some Assasin's Creed or other stupid 3 year child game
You're using the typical invader talking points and telling people to go play another game. With the mod, they're basically doing that, so there's no issue.
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D. Flame 27 May, 2023 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by zero:
Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:
But when you do a mod and i tell you that because i work in domain of Laws,
then cite the law its breaking my dude, lmao.

its not a crime to modify content you own.

it doesn't even break the ToS
Actually, I believe it is copyright infringement.
  #744
zero 27 May, 2023 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by zero:
then cite the law its breaking my dude, lmao.

its not a crime to modify content you own.

it doesn't even break the ToS
Actually, I believe it is copyright infringement.
that would require the work to be reproduced, which isn't what the mod does.

try again.
  #745
D. Flame 27 May, 2023 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by zero:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Actually, I believe it is copyright infringement.
that would require the work to be reproduced, which isn't what the mod does.

try again.
Pretty sure it wouldn't, but even if that were the case, it was reproduced the second the mod was released to the public.

Copyright law also protects against derivative works.
  #746
zero 27 May, 2023 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by zero:
that would require the work to be reproduced, which isn't what the mod does.

try again.
Pretty sure it wouldn't, but even if that were the case, it was reproduced the second the mod was released to the public.

Copyright law also protects against derivative works.
the mod doesn't reproduce the game.

its also not a derivative work.

try again X2
  #747
D. Flame 27 May, 2023 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by zero:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Pretty sure it wouldn't, but even if that were the case, it was reproduced the second the mod was released to the public.

Copyright law also protects against derivative works.
the mod doesn't reproduce the game.

its also not a derivative work.

try again X2
false
  #748
zero 27 May, 2023 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by zero:
the mod doesn't reproduce the game.

its also not a derivative work.

try again X2
false
then i suppose you have to prove it then, which means:

try again X3
  #749
D. Flame 27 May, 2023 @ 5:08pm 
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Originally posted by zero:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
false
then i suppose you have to prove it then, which means:

try again X3
You have to prove your claims first, such as proving that is somehow not a derivative work. This will be impossible to do however, since courts have already repeatedly found cheats to be derivative works and help the creators of said cheat liable for damages.
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