Started it the first time and then really couldn't be bothered and now I don't care to try.

Same as Azure. Stopped after the 6th puzzle. Oh, also there's insane corruption every time you rest, even though you're no longer in the Worldwound. Plus Nenio's an unlikeable brat.

I do it every time, though I do look up that answers shamelessly, since I like Nenio. A scroll wizard is effectively infinite spellslots(So long as you have the scrolls), even of spells she herself can't cast. That and the stuff you find in the final bonus dungeon IS good stuff...not quite good enough to make it not annoying and bugged to hell at times(Just finished it again a bit ago, 6 crashes)

It's insufferable, so, until I decide to do a secret ending, I am not touching this tedious, boring excuse of a dungeon again.

Only did it on the first playthrough. No plans to do it again.

I actually enjoy it, mostly for the final fight there. But it is not actually that tedious. I usually do not spend much time on the riddles. When it is hard, I simply google the answers.

Then again, this comes from a person who actually enjoyed the House at the Edge of Time in Kingmaker (although truth be told I have only cleared it completely only once in my three runs of Kingmaker).

i'll confess i did it once for ascension, beyond i went ♥♥♥♥ all.

I played through it every time(7 playthroughs). First 3 times i enjoyed it a lot. The rest - not so much. But thats not a surprise. I really like the story behind it though.

Originally posted by Star Sage:

A scroll wizard is effectively infinite spellslots(So long as you have the scrolls), even of spells she herself can't cast.

Yes - if You manually put every scroll into the belt. Infinite times. One by one. I actually used like 2 scrolls with her in the whole playthrough, just to justify the scroll savant, as my plan was to use her like it - and then i skipped it. I made like 30 legendary proportion scrolls, and used exactly none - i didn´t even cast the spell the whole game. Perhaps it´s needed on hard or unfair. Don´t know.

In theory it´s nice, in practice it´s many button clicks, which are unnecessary. It´s basically like - to build the bridge to the topic - like the end dungeon of her quest...

Imho the game would benefit if there were way less scrolls to find, but those which are found, would be actually useful for the encounters ahead. I guess most of my inventory in the endgame was about scrolls and potions, which i never used - but didn´t want to sell either, as they could have been useful. Also many potions and scrolls lose their usefulness, when You can have 24h buffs. So the only scrolls which are really useful are the restoration ones, or resurrection ones, or legendary proportions, or anything which costs resources when casting them without scroll.

It would also be nice if the belt would actually pull a new scroll or potion out of the inventory by itself after using it - if it is available. That would be the QoL thing which could make me use more scrolls, or potions, or wands...

Else Nenio is cool. First i thought she´s arrogant, but she´s just confused and quite funny. Killing the guy in the fleshmarket for science was a thing i couldn´t pass. It´s not her questline, but what she contributes outside of it. Quite the talk-active member.

Originally posted by Pooh Daddy:

Did you skip or nah every play through?

Ignored her, immersion breaking awful character.

I did it once ... and I hated it. Had to look a solution to progress, and even with that, it took me hours. Not to mention that there is way, way too much ennemies in there. Seriously, you've got a fight on your hands every 10 feets.

The most frustrating part is how convoluted some of the puzzles are. Even with the solution in hands, i wasn't able to understand the logic behind some of them.

I gave the boot to Nenio almost as soon as I met her when she refused to respect that I was the leader of the group

Originally posted by MMJ:

I did it once ... and I hated it. Had to look a solution to progress, and even with that, it took me hours. Not to mention that there is way, way too much ennemies in there. Seriously, you've got a fight on your hands every 10 feets.

The most frustrating part is how convoluted some of the puzzles are. Even with the solution in hands, i wasn't able to understand the logic behind some of them.

You can use a mod to skip the puzzle, saved me alot of time and save scumming lol

Originally posted by Pooh Daddy:

You can use a mod to skip the puzzle, saved me alot of time and save scumming lol

Oh, i'll definitly look into that, thanks !

I did it on my second playthrough and will only do it again on an Ascension run for the extra crystal. I don't plan to repeat the dungeon unless necessary, as much as I like Nenio.

Even when you know the logic of a puzzle or outright know the solution, it is immensely tedious to input the solution with the one-by-one click system of this UI. A unique puzzleboard pop-up would not have been too difficult to implement.

To get to each puzzle, you first have to clear out a bunch of filler undead and construct enemies who are immune to the usual Weird nuke you're using to clear pointless trash fights at that point in the game. If the area is meant to be focused on puzzles, then keep enemy count low or non-existent, just like the prior puzzle areas; I'm already max level and just want to wrap up the story, by that point, so any fight that is not an actual challenge is wasted time.

To power each puzzle, you have to collect crystals from all over the dungeon (some hidden behind missable Perception checks!), and then manually place each crystal... solve the puzzle... recollect and move each crystal... go to nex-....zzzzzzzzzzzzz...... Oh, they could have simply included less crystals that become permanently placed; one for each puzzle board.

Memory match puzzles aren't puzzles; they are a tedious click-fest as you trial-and-error to first see what's underneath each tile, and then click again to match them all. And for people who have legitimate memory issues that make them actually difficult, they are super painful because the player knows the logic of the puzzle but can't solve it without save-scumming or looking up the order step-by-step.

The dialogue "puzzles" boil down to remembering an earlier phrase and capitulating to the builder's massively bloated ego.

You can't simply run through the map on auto-pilot thanks to the snake head traps spewing out Exhaustion gas at a high enough level that no Spell Resistance will help you; your team might get whacked and then slowed down even further if you aren't micro-managing their movements in those areas.

Lore aside, the loot is awful. Sure, you get countless filler generic magic weapons to sell off after you leave, but money stopped meaning anything after you bought all the unique items only available in Act 4. The various Robe Of Element drops mean nothing, because you have Ascendant Element on every caster and most elemental spells check for Reflex saves if they even allow a save.

Ms. Sphinx does not match her canon personality at all, offers an obviously crummy deal, that deal has hilariously bad effects on both actual gameplay and the plot, and you get basically no tangible reward for all that work if you rightfully decline. I suspect the devs thought they were trying to do a clever "We warned you to leave some riddles unsolved!" thing, but that doesn't comfort a player who spent 4 hours in this place and countless time leading up to it.

Nenio, who previously shook off any negative experience, is suddenly very emotionally despondent about being a person from a strange source instead of gushing over the unique research opportunities? Character arc plot hole!