Aeon's End
Zzoyd 11 Sep, 2024 @ 6:43am
Kleptomancy & Same Old Tricks Achievement Conditions
I've been using Gex's Shattered Geode to steal the unique starter cards from the other three mages. As far as I can tell you can only get Gex's Shattered Geode in Expedition mode, so all the mages start with 2 unique cards (normal unique and treasure).

Do all 8 of these cards need to be in the possession of a single mage? I've definitely got all 4 of the regular unique starter cards into a single mage's hand multiple times now without the achievement working.

I was trying to also get the hidden achievement Same Old Tricks to pop at the same time (so many abandoned expeditions before finally getting 3 mages that had treasure cards...) but that's also failed twice now. Do you have to have the original and the treasure version both in hand at the same time or something? I know for sure that I've cast the treasured versions from 3 of the 4 mages multiple times in the same game without it popping the achievement.
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Phunfun 12 Sep, 2024 @ 12:17pm 
I haven't earned either one yet but, judging by the achievement description, here are my guesses on the Klepto one:

1: Some mages such as Xae, Gygar, and Talix, have 2 starter cards so make sure you've grabbed both their cards if playing with one of them.

2: I would hope that treasured cards don't count as trying to get 8 cards instead of 4 would be a lot more difficult, but again I don't know. If they DON'T count then make sure you haven't swapped in a treasure card for one of the regular unique starter cards if playing with the #1 scenario above since maybe the achievement would require both Gygar's uniques (for example) but the treasure card replaced one of them.

3: The achievement just says "in posession of" rather than "in the hand of" so maybe you can try again, gathering all 6 regular and treasured cards from the other mages into your Geode mage without having to worry about getting them all in one hand.

4: If none of these applied then maybe you can try saving/reloading the game after getting all the cards and see if maybe that triggers the achievement (like forcing the game to do a card check on loading or something).

Only other thing I can think of is it's bugged somehow. Maybe a dev will respond to this thread or maybe you can try their Discord channel if they have one.

I don't know what the Same Old Trick achievent requires so no input there from me.
Zzoyd 12 Sep, 2024 @ 2:38pm 
I ended up getting Kleptomancy by playing against the Ageless Walker in a normal game and using the exiled pile. It triggered as soon as I picked up the 3rd one. So much easier. Still curious about the interaction of the achievement with the treasured cards though.

Funnily enough I was playing with Gygar! But he was the one gathering the cards so I didn't need to worry about getting both of his uniques.

I've still got the expedition run going where I'm working on Same Old Tricks. Just that and the one where I have to win at 1 life for the mages/Gravehold before 100%.
Zzoyd 12 Sep, 2024 @ 4:48pm 
Ok, for posterity:

Same Old Tricks requires that the three mages using their own treasures not be accompanied by a fourth mage. (I suppose it would work if that fourth mage were also using a treasured version of their own starter... but I can't test that anymore.)
Phunfun 12 Sep, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by Zzoyd:
I've still got the expedition run going where I'm working on Same Old Tricks. Just that and the one where I have to win at 1 life for the mages/Gravehold before 100%.
I'd recommend taking a look at a thread by Beowulf about a year ago (probably 2nd page of topics) titled "Achievment bug". He includes a screenshot of a run he played with 2 mages where he got both mages and Gravehold to 1 life before winning and the achievement didn't unlock for him. I replied with my thoughts on possible reasons so checking out that thread may help you plan your attempt.
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