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Feebs 3 Oct, 2019 @ 8:39pm
Mods/Devs Can you please sticky "No German Campaign" at top?
...and also ban the nazis, altright, and wehraboos who whine about it and say they were innocent and all that?

edit: chosen answer just further proves my argument about how utterly rediculous they are.
Last edited by Feebs; 10 Oct, 2019 @ 6:05pm
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Ribs 3 Oct, 2019 @ 10:58pm 
Well it was fun to see wehraboos asking for German campaign, now it's just annoying lol
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Turtler 3 Oct, 2019 @ 11:08pm 
Yah. I mean, I'd be more tolerant of it IF These scumsuckers were "just" asking for a campaign. Because while it's cringy, I think you can make good games on cringy subjects. And I still remember stomping the Uprising in Panzer Corps.

But it was never about that. Let's ignore the genocide, the oppression, and crimes. Like Kaminski getting killed because he wouldn't share the stolen loot.

Screw these people. Seriously Bugger them. They do not deserve the freedom we have.
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Feebs 4 Oct, 2019 @ 2:41am 
and its getting beyond silly.
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Sarasvato 4 Oct, 2019 @ 4:31am 
Yes please. I just want to kill nazis, not hear them whine about lack of positive representation.
Last edited by Sarasvato; 4 Oct, 2019 @ 9:45am
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Gloomseeker 4 Oct, 2019 @ 5:40am 
There are some pretty unsavoury characters drawn to this forum... I'm really glad Steam has implemented the option to block those Nazi sympathisers at least that way it's possible to just ignore their inane ramblings.
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Flori the Fox 4 Oct, 2019 @ 6:00am 
Gosh Feebs, it's almost sad how personal you take the whole thing. You seem a bit obsessed with it. C'mon ,it's a game.
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Feebs 4 Oct, 2019 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Flori der Fux:
Gosh Feebs, it's almost sad how personal you take the whole thing. You seem a bit obsessed with it. C'mon ,it's a game.

You uh.. You've not seen the posters on this forum have you?
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Flori the Fox 4 Oct, 2019 @ 6:16am 
I have seen them yes. And the discussion of course is pretty silly. Why on earth would the devs put a German campaign into a game that is aiming to deliver a historical and political message. It makes zero sense and there I'm completly with you. And yes, war is one thing, but what happened in Warsaw is a different pair of shoes. And there is no justification for it. But keep in mind, a large part of the gamer community is pretty young, they hear WW2 and think of the Eastern frontier, or the invasion at the Normandy, and probably don't recognize Poland as a remarkable player in the whole big war. They may see the game from a different perspective. Not so much the "story" part but more the "combat" part where it's sometimes cool to play the badasses. Many are obviously lacking historical details too. Yes, there have been no saints in this war. even Poland had an agressive nationalist government at this time. There were many reasons for the Polish and Germans to hate each other, heated up by massive propaganda on both sides. This however is absolutly no justification for war crimes against civilians. If Warsaw was all about combat, I'd say okay, they could consider adding a German campaign. but this is not a battle simulator, this is about history and everything but playing on the side of the Polish resistance would be very unfitting.
Last edited by Flori the Fox; 4 Oct, 2019 @ 6:18am
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Grognerd 4 Oct, 2019 @ 9:19am 
Just make a "Requests for a German Campaign and other Trolling Posts" subforum, and move them all there?
Last edited by Grognerd; 4 Oct, 2019 @ 9:20am
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Korval 4 Oct, 2019 @ 9:48am 
What happened in Poland and other countries during WW2 was horrible. While the Nazis were the primary offenders, the Soviets and Japanese were also horrible, and even the Allies did some questionable things. I love the idea of this game, both as a historical piece and as an interesting mix of tactical turn based game and rogue-like (fighting against impossible odds, with essentially certain eventual failure/death). The idea of a "German Campaign" thus really doesn't fit with the theme (but see below).

That being said, not everyone who served on the German side was evil. Lots of young kids served, many of whom were just as innocent as the young Poles who fought and died.

It's actually not totally unreasonable that the game mechanics could be leveraged for the final defense of Berlin against the Soviets. The limited reading I have done on that indicates that similar things happened (the very young and very old fighting to stop the Soviets).

It's fairly worrisome that some young people are glorifying the horrors that led to WW2. Those of us who lost relatives or had them spend time in POW/concentration camps heard how horrible it was.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...
Blind allegience to any "leader" and unreasoning hatred of those who are different leads to horrible things.

Thanks to the developers for providing an entertaining reminder of a largely forgotten campaign in a horrible time of human history. Hopefully it will open the eyes of some younger people.
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Shizo Casual 4 Oct, 2019 @ 9:59am 
No german campaign pls, go with resistance but other part of the eastern europe. People need to learn more about forgotten resistance group.
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Turtler 4 Oct, 2019 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Korval:
What happened in Poland and other countries during WW2 was horrible. While the Nazis were the primary offenders, the Soviets and Japanese were also horrible, and even the Allies did some questionable things. I love the idea of this game, both as a historical piece and as an interesting mix of tactical turn based game and rogue-like (fighting against impossible odds, with essentially certain eventual failure/death). The idea of a "German Campaign" thus really doesn't fit with the theme (but see below).

Agreed. I mean, I'm not opposed to a Nazi/Bad Guy Campaign in theory. But it would require a Staggering amount of reworking just to use it.

Honestly I think the logical extension of Warsaw's system would be something like a wider campaign for the Polish Home Army or some of the Forest Brothers, or with the Yugoslavs.

Originally posted by Korval:
That being said, not everyone who served on the German side was evil. Lots of young kids served, many of whom were just as innocent as the young Poles who fought and died.

Indeed, and there's even a recruitable German defector.

Originally posted by Korval:
It's actually not totally unreasonable that the game mechanics could be leveraged for the final defense of Berlin against the Soviets. The limited reading I have done on that indicates that similar things happened (the very young and very old fighting to stop the Soviets).

Yup.

Originally posted by Korval:
It's fairly worrisome that some young people are glorifying the horrors that led to WW2. Those of us who lost relatives or had them spend time in POW/concentration camps heard how horrible it was.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...
Blind allegience to any "leader" and unreasoning hatred of those who are different leads to horrible things.

Well said. But not just leaders, but also causes, ideologies, and cultures. After all, the Japanese were not united by any leader except for the mostly ceremonial Tenno. Indeed they often tried to overthrow each other. And this helped lead to chaos and monstrous carnage.

I'll admit. I am a massive wargamer who might be guiltier than most of "glorifying" war. But I at least try to remember that war is ultimately destruction and ruin. And many ideologies are even worse.

Originally posted by Korval:
Thanks to the developers for providing an entertaining reminder of a largely forgotten campaign in a horrible time of human history. Hopefully it will open the eyes of some younger people.

Same.
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gerald2 10 Oct, 2019 @ 3:51am 
Originally posted by Turtler:
[quote=Korval;

Originally posted by Korval:
It's actually not totally unreasonable that the game mechanics could be leveraged for the final defense of Berlin against the Soviets. The limited reading I have done on that indicates that similar things happened (the very young and very old fighting to stop the Soviets).


Same.
its alot different ,Germans started this war they was pushed back and forced kids to fight to defend their capitol,in Warsaw upraising noone was forced to fight for freedom....(i wont discuss here if upraising was good or bad decision and such cause its long and very painfull topic).
Most Germans choosed and supported nazi government ,how you can compare them to ppl who was attacked slaughtered and fought for their freedom??? no mate IMHO its not the same ...so pls dont compare volksturm defending Berlin to Warsaw Upraising rebels they have nothing in common .
Last edited by gerald2; 10 Oct, 2019 @ 3:52am
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Mhorhe 10 Oct, 2019 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Korval:
Thanks to the developers for providing an entertaining reminder of a largely forgotten campaign in a horrible time of human history. Hopefully it will open the eyes of some younger people.

This.

It is maddening that they don't seem to understand even if you walk them through the meaning, step by step.
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Turtler 10 Oct, 2019 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by Whitest Hamster You Know:
Turtler
Except the Jews were the original "Palestinians."

its where I stop reading, dumb as it gets.

Except it's not.

For starters you fool: YOU'RE The one who tried to claim that the Germans "lost the war to the Jew nuclear weapon "

The problem being that not a single nuclear weapon was used on Germany in the history of EVER, including in WWII. Indeed, not a single nuclear weapon was READY to be used by the time Germany surrendered.

Meaning you're far dumber than it gets.

Secondly: Where the farq do you think the very term "Palestinian" Comes from?

From the Latin regional designation of "Syria-Palaestina" after the Roman Legions crushed the the latest in several Jewish revolts.

"Palaestina" was a corrupted Latin reference to the Phillistines- who were apparently Greco-Anatolian settlers that had settled in the Levant- but referred to no prior group that actually existed (since the Phillistines weren' "Palaestinans", the local Jews were).

We see this up to the middle of the 20th century, where the local Arabs vehemently rejected the term Palestinian, associating it with the Jews. Hence Mufti al-Husseini's labeling of himself as an Arab leader fighting for "Greater Syria", not a "Palestine."


Originally posted by Whitest Hamster You Know:
Adolf Hitler took a parasite off the Poland Im so proud of my neighbours.

I look forward to when you get banned on these forums.
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