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a1gundam 14 Apr, 2020 @ 2:34pm
Using more than 4 abilities with gamepad
Edit: I was messing around with configuring my controller for this game for hours and figure I'd share my config if anyone still plays this. I have my gamepad set up to use right bumper + A, X, Y, or B for abilities 5, 6, 7, 8 respectfully. I moved crouch to left bumper and the radial dial to left thumb stick. The trick to making it work is making the game switch between k&m and the gamepad constantly, so when using abilities 5, 6, 7, and 8 you can't be pushing any other buttons or moving the analog sticks. It's very hit or miss sometimes. I wouldn't use skills that take multiple taps like Mark of Flame or Shadow Flare. It's pretty consistent with Ice Barrage and Storm Bolt and the sustain abilities. Feel free to use this as a template for your personal configuration. If you can figure out a better setup or way to make it more consistent let me know.

Idk how to share my controller config here so you'll have to find it under controller configuration. I named it 'Using Mode Shift'.



Ok first of all yes I know you can use up to 10 abilities with k&m. I have Sphere of Protection on slot 5 so I just have to right click the mouse to toggle it. I have a chat pad on my xbone controller. In the game you can't remap attack and use equipped spell. (Left-click and right-click)

What I want to know is, is there a program out there that can let me map mouse controls to a gamepad? Pushing the left stick isn't used for anything in this game. I want to be able to map right mouse click (use equipped spell) to it so I can use the chat pad to select an ability and left-stick to use it. Is there any third party programs that can do this?
Last edited by a1gundam; 17 Apr, 2020 @ 2:30pm
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Godling 14 Apr, 2020 @ 3:28pm 
Pinnacle Game Profiler (fully functional trial then $6.99 USD)
http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/

JoyToKey (fully functional trial then $7.00 USD)
https://joytokey.net/en/

InputMapper (by donation)
https://inputmapper.com/

I bought Pinnacle myself but can't recall exactly if it does what you want but I'm pretty sure it does. It's incredibly flexible from what I recall (haven't needed or touched it for many years.)
Last edited by Godling; 14 Apr, 2020 @ 3:29pm
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a1gundam 15 Apr, 2020 @ 12:09am 
Originally posted by Godling:
Pinnacle Game Profiler (fully functional trial then $6.99 USD)
http://pinnaclegameprofiler.com/

JoyToKey (fully functional trial then $7.00 USD)
https://joytokey.net/en/

InputMapper (by donation)
https://inputmapper.com/

I bought Pinnacle myself but can't recall exactly if it does what you want but I'm pretty sure it does. It's incredibly flexible from what I recall (haven't needed or touched it for many years.)

Thanks. I checked out JoytoKey but it looks like it has a learning curve that I don't feel like bothering with right now. I actually tried using Steam to configure my controller in a way to use more abilities. I was trying out different things and I got it to a point where it's... kinda hit or miss. I got it set up to hold right bumper and press a x y or b to use skills 5 - 8 It works good for togglable abilities but it's not really reliable for actives except Ice Barrage. It's something for now. Better than reaching for my mouse.
Last edited by a1gundam; 15 Apr, 2020 @ 12:09am
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Jason 20 Apr, 2020 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by a1gundam:
I actually tried using Steam to configure my controller in a way to use more abilities. I was trying out different things and I got it to a point where it's... kinda hit or miss. I got it set up to hold right bumper and press a x y or b to use skills 5 - 8 It works good for togglable abilities but it's not really reliable for actives except Ice Barrage.
That sounds like the problem is with the game only accepting input from one type at a time, rather than steam input's, so I doubt a third party program will fix that problem. You could try mapping everything on your controller into keyboard inputs (left stick for WASD, left click on X, right click on Y, etc etc). Only issue I see with this solution is that only steam controller can simulate mouse input I believe, so for camera controls you would need to find a way, or don't pan the camera while moving.

Edit: nvm you can use the joystick mouse input method for camera

I've also tried mapping keyboard controls onto my steam controller in the past, here's the result, you can use it as a template: steam://controllerconfig/102500/1464085827 (just copy into address bar in browser)

I don't think it's perfect, but it was the best I could do at the time, if I decide to redo it I'll share it here again.
Last edited by Jason; 20 Apr, 2020 @ 8:24am
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a1gundam 20 Apr, 2020 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Jason:
Originally posted by a1gundam:
I actually tried using Steam to configure my controller in a way to use more abilities. I was trying out different things and I got it to a point where it's... kinda hit or miss. I got it set up to hold right bumper and press a x y or b to use skills 5 - 8 It works good for togglable abilities but it's not really reliable for actives except Ice Barrage.
That sounds like the problem is with the game only accepting input from one type at a time, rather than steam input's, so I doubt a third party program will fix that problem. You could try mapping everything on your controller into keyboard inputs (left stick for WASD, left click on X, right click on Y, etc etc). Only issue I see with this solution is that only steam controller can simulate mouse input I believe, so for camera controls you would need to find a way, or don't pan the camera while moving.

Edit: nvm you can use the joystick mouse input method for camera

I've also tried mapping keyboard controls onto my steam controller in the past, here's the result, you can use it as a template: steam://controllerconfig/102500/1464085827 (just copy into address bar in browser)

I don't think it's perfect, but it was the best I could do at the time, if I decide to redo it I'll share it here again.

I haven't thought about that. So using my gamepad but making the game think I'm using keyboard and mouse? That's pretty smart actually. I'll give your template a try. Thanks!
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Jason 21 Apr, 2020 @ 2:51am 
Made a new config, quite happy with this one, might use it myself.
Unlike the previous one, movement is not sacrificed while using the radial wheel, and potions are much easier to access. The scroll wheel action layer is simply for scrolling long text boxes, and is replaced by the mouse control action set, so ignore that.

steam://controllerconfig/102500/2069012316

Only problem is while attacking, the game sometimes doesn't do what I intent to do, like charge attack while I'm simply spamming the button, I think this is due to a mouse click simply being faster than a button on the controller, so the developers adjust how long the click has to be held for controller and mouse seperately, not quite sure how to fix that.
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a1gundam 22 Apr, 2020 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Jason:
Made a new config, quite happy with this one, might use it myself.
Unlike the previous one, movement is not sacrificed while using the radial wheel, and potions are much easier to access. The scroll wheel action layer is simply for scrolling long text boxes, and is replaced by the mouse control action set, so ignore that.

steam://controllerconfig/102500/2069012316

Only problem is while attacking, the game sometimes doesn't do what I intent to do, like charge attack while I'm simply spamming the button, I think this is due to a mouse click simply being faster than a button on the controller, so the developers adjust how long the click has to be held for controller and mouse seperately, not quite sure how to fix that.


Cool work! I was trying to make my own setup but I don't know my way around these action layer and action sets so mine was kind of a mess. I used your last upload as a template and I'm pretty happy with my setup. I'm using an xbox one controller which I guess I should have mentioned from the beginning. I have abilities 1 -4 functioning like they do on a controller (right trigger + button pad) and abilities 5 - 8 mapped to right bumper + X, Y, B, A. I'm not sure what you were going for with mapping your abilities because I don't think that part of your setup was converted over very well to my controller, but hope it's working out well for you.

The only thing I didn't like is the clicking sound everytime I use an ability but I found an old thread showing how to disable it. Kind of weird not hearing it in the pause menu now but it's ok. The camera also doesn't automatically follow me while running now so I'd have to get used to that. Besides that I'm pretty happy with my setup so thanks for your contributions. As for your problem with attacking, if turbo is turned off and activation type is set to regular press then Idk. You could try messing with the fire start and fire end delay sliders and make sure toggle is set to off. That's the only things I can think of. I'm still trying to learn more about these functions myself. Good luck.
Last edited by a1gundam; 22 Apr, 2020 @ 7:48am
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BackerTheHacker 25 Dec, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
Hey guys sorry I'm late to the party but if you're still in the market for a control scheme I just made one based on gundams idea of LB for 5,6,7,8,9 and 0
I tested it myself and it seems to move pretty seamlessly between kb and controller inputs without sacrificing anything but lmk if there's anything wrong with it and I'll fix it
It's on the community as 'post reckoning' but here is the link:
steam://controllerconfig/102500/3122928689
Thank you for the idea gundam, I came here myself looking for a solution and now I think I have it :)
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popfulgaw 13 Sep, 2024 @ 5:30am 
Does anyone have any 5-10 key bindings or controller configurations for Steam Deck?
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BackerTheHacker 13 Sep, 2024 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by popfulgaw:
Does anyone have any 5-10 key bindings or controller configurations for Steam Deck?
The one I made was for steam controller, on PC there's an option to try and import controller schemes from other controller types
if they kept this feature for steam deck then mine should work fine for you as sc and sd are very similar
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