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hmmmm we getting it free ? if we have a VR set and the Desktop game..... we getting a discount..? i would love this for my Quest 3...

if you were in the Team Beef patreon between the original early access and today at any point you get a free key to any platform

AMID EVIL VR has a discount for owners of the original, so I hope for something similar:
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/31989/AMID_EVIL_VR_BUNDLE/

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CHAMPIONS WHO OWN AMID EVIL *OR* AMID EVIL [VR] GET THE OTHER GAME 50% OFF!

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Please focus on improvements to the existing game, instead of a gimmick... Please, please, please. It took you guys SO, SO, SO long to release this (November 22, 2019 - February 27, 2024). Finish it, then do this. No, it's not finished, needs patching and balancing.

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

Please focus on improvements to the existing game, instead of a gimmick... Please, please, please. It took you guys SO, SO, SO long to release this (November 22, 2019 - February 27, 2024). Finish it, then do this. No, it's not finished, needs patching and balancing.

VR isn't a gimmick, it's superior way of playing almost all games if the port is made correctly, and the VR port is being made by Flat2VR Studios - it's a new company formed by VR modders, who officially port flatscreen games to VR. If I understand correctly from what they say about all their VR ports,, they only get source code of the game from original developers and do the port by themselves.

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

Originally posted by Kondiq:

VR isn't a gimmick, it's superior way of playing almost all games if the port is made correctly, and the VR port is being made by Flat2VR Studios - it's a new company formed by VR modders, who officially port flatscreen games to VR. If I understand correctly from what they say about all their VR ports,, they only get source code of the game from original developers and do the port by themselves.

It's a gimmick, yes some VR titles are really neat, but there is no longevity in such titles

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

It's a gimmick, yes some VR titles are really neat, but there is no longevity in such titles

There are VR mods for flatscreen games, which show that it's not a gimmick if made well. When we're at oldschool shooters, have you tried Doom, Doom II or Doom 3 BFG in VR? I remember these games from when I was a kid and in VR they're even better, when you can actually be in the game and aim with your hand. VR adds to the experience, same with VR mods for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy - you actually wield the lightsaber and deflect blasters shots with it manually. And you still play the whole campaign like in flatscreen game.

Have you tried these VR titles?:
- A Fisherman's Tale and ANother Fisherman's Tale
- The Curious Tale of the Stolen Pets
- Down the Rabbit Hole
- Moss
- Hubris (technically a bit junky, but it hook me so much, I finished it in 2, maybe 3 days)
- Elite: Dangerous
- Assetto Corsa (with mods, necessarily Content Manager and CSP, in which you can set up a lot of VR tweaks)
- Star Wars: Squadrons
- Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Simulator
- I Fetch Rocks
- Catch & Release
- Cook-Out (cooking in co-op, similar to Overcooked)
- Rags to Dishes (similar to Cook-Out, but single player and with buying upgrades)
- Cooking Simulator VR (more realistic cooking)
- Cosmodread
- Fallout 4 VR (Fallout VR Essentials Overhaul modlist on wabbajack)
- Skyrim VR (with FUS modlist on wabbajack)
- Eye of the Temple
- Ghost Signal: A Stellaris Game
- The Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners
- Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades (there's even a mod which adds co-op)
- Kayak VR: Mirage
- Mothergunship: Forge (amazing for co-op)
- No Man's Sky (but update 5.0 reduced VR performance a lot, so not as enjoyable anymore)
- Pistol Whip
- Robinson: The Journey (but you need to edit a config file to have normal sharp resolution, and not pixel fest, and the controls were originally made for HTC Vive, so not that comfortable, but the game is on CryEngine, and it's one of not many big AAA VR games, but it was originally made for PSVR and PC port was made for Vive)
- Serious Sam VR (I don't know how they achieved it, but you can spam jump and you still don't feel nauseous at all, even though your character jumps. Still as good as flatscreen games)
- Tactical Assault VR
- Trover Saves the Universe
- Vengeful Rites
- Walkabout Minigolf
- VTOL VR

And also VR mods:
- 7 Days to Die (I spent around 70 hours in VR already, and overall over 400 hours including flatscreen)
- Risk of Rain 2
- Lethal Company
- Subnautica (has official VR mod, but SubmersedVR mod adds VR motion controls support, and adds a lot of different improvements)
- Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy
- Firewatch

Originally posted by Kondiq:

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

There are VR mods for flatscreen games, which show that it's not a gimmick if made well. When we're at oldschool shooters, have you tried Doom, Doom II or Doom 3 BFG in VR? I remember these games from when I was a kid and in VR they're even better, when you can actually be in the game and aim with your hand. VR adds to the experience, same with VR mods for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy - you actually wield the lightsaber and deflect blasters shots with it manually. And you still play the whole campaign like in flatscreen game.

Have you tried these VR titles?:
- A Fisherman's Tale and ANother Fisherman's Tale
- The Curious Tale of the Stolen Pets
- Down the Rabbit Hole
- Moss
- Hubris (technically a bit junky, but it hook me so much, I finished it in 2, maybe 3 days)
- Elite: Dangerous
- Assetto Corsa (with mods, necessarily Content Manager and CSP, in which you can set up a lot of VR tweaks)
- Star Wars: Squadrons
- Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Simulator
- I Fetch Rocks
- Catch & Release
- Cook-Out (cooking in co-op, similar to Overcooked)
- Rags to Dishes (similar to Cook-Out, but single player and with buying upgrades)
- Cooking Simulator VR (more realistic cooking)
- Cosmodread
- Fallout 4 VR (Fallout VR Essentials Overhaul modlist on wabbajack)
- Skyrim VR (with FUS modlist on wabbajack)
- Eye of the Temple
- Ghost Signal: A Stellaris Game
- The Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners
- Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades (there's even a mod which adds co-op)
- Kayak VR: Mirage
- Mothergunship: Forge (amazing for co-op)
- No Man's Sky (but update 5.0 reduced VR performance a lot, so not as enjoyable anymore)
- Pistol Whip
- Robinson: The Journey (but you need to edit a config file to have normal sharp resolution, and not pixel fest, and the controls were originally made for HTC Vive, so not that comfortable, but the game is on CryEngine, and it's one of not many big AAA VR games, but it was originally made for PSVR and PC port was made for Vive)
- Serious Sam VR (I don't know how they achieved it, but you can spam jump and you still don't feel nauseous at all, even though your character jumps. Still as good as flatscreen games)
- Tactical Assault VR
- Trover Saves the Universe
- Vengeful Rites
- Walkabout Minigolf
- VTOL VR

And also VR mods:
- 7 Days to Die (I spent around 70 hours in VR already, and overall over 400 hours including flatscreen)
- Risk of Rain 2
- Lethal Company
- Subnautica (has official VR mod, but SubmersedVR mod adds VR motion controls support, and adds a lot of different improvements)
- Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy
- Firewatch

While I have not (I'm also aware that there are mods for them) a lot of these are not officially VR titles... Also, nice YouTube page my friend. VR titles just have no longevity my friend... Name a title that's SUPER popular that's VR specifically that is't an after thought (Besides Half Life) great game by the way. I own a lot of those titles and IMO there garbage gimmicky games.

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

While I have not (I'm also aware that there are mods for them) a lot of these are not officially VR titles... Also, nice YouTube page my friend. VR titles just have no longevity my friend... Name a title that's SUPER popular that's VR specifically that is't an after thought (Besides Half Life) great game by the way.

Popularity doesn't equal quality. If it would be like that, then Call of Duty and Fortnite would be the best games in the world.

For me, Half-Life: Alyx is a gimmick. It's a good VR experience to try, to get the WOW effect, but it's a bad game - boring, repetitive, same puzzles over and over again, very similar environments.

Real games that are VR titles for me are especially Vertigo Remastered and Vertigo 2. For me all the games I listed in my previous comment are better games than Half-Life: Alyx. Alyx may be a better VR experience for an hour or two, but is a worse game, and I don't care that it's more popular because it was advertised as AAA title and came from Valve. I didn't like it. Popularity is meaningless for me, as in case of flatscreen games, I play more indie titles than popular big studios games. Boomer shooters aren's exactly popular and some people would call them a gimmick, but why should I care, if I enjoy them?

Originally posted by Kondiq:

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

While I have not (I'm also aware that there are mods for them) a lot of these are not officially VR titles... Also, nice YouTube page my friend. VR titles just have no longevity my friend... Name a title that's SUPER popular that's VR specifically that is't an after thought (Besides Half Life) great game by the way.

Popularity doesn't equal quality. If it would be like that, then Call of Duty and Fortnite would be the best games in the world.

For me, Half-Life: Alyx is a gimmick. It's a good VR experience to try, to get the WOW effect, but it's a bad game - boring, repetitive, same puzzles over and over again, very similar environments.

Real games that are VR titles for me are especially Vertigo Remastered and Vertigo 2. For me all the games I listed in my previous comment are better games than Half-Life: Alyx. Alyx may be a better VR experience for an hour or two, but is a worse game, and I don't care that it's more popular because it was advertised as AAA title and came from Valve. I didn't like it. Popularity is meaningless for me, as in case of flatscreen games, I play more indie titles than popular big studios games. Boomer shooters aren's exactly popular and some people would call them a gimmick, but why should I care, if I enjoy them?

We are going to have to agree to disagree to this topic my friend. I know all about "boomer shooter" I was born in the 80's, I own (still) all the classics. Yes I love playing them in VR, but i Want a finished Wrath before they work on VR. Focus on that

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

but i Want a finished Wrath before they work on VR. Focus on that

And that's why I told you the VR port is being developed by 3rd party studio without slowing down development of the flatscreen version. The Flat2VR Studios is made of people who developed unofficial VR mods for flatscreen games, thus they don't need much help from the game developers, other than having source code of the game to make their job easier.

EDIT. Btw, IIRC, the VR mod was under heavy development by the same team before it became an official VR port. I think it was actually released as standalone mod for Quest, but not for PCVR.

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

Originally posted by Kondiq:

There are VR mods for flatscreen games, which show that it's not a gimmick if made well. When we're at oldschool shooters, have you tried Doom, Doom II or Doom 3 BFG in VR? I remember these games from when I was a kid and in VR they're even better, when you can actually be in the game and aim with your hand. VR adds to the experience, same with VR mods for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy - you actually wield the lightsaber and deflect blasters shots with it manually. And you still play the whole campaign like in flatscreen game.

Have you tried these VR titles?:
- A Fisherman's Tale and ANother Fisherman's Tale
- The Curious Tale of the Stolen Pets
- Down the Rabbit Hole
- Moss
- Hubris (technically a bit junky, but it hook me so much, I finished it in 2, maybe 3 days)
- Elite: Dangerous
- Assetto Corsa (with mods, necessarily Content Manager and CSP, in which you can set up a lot of VR tweaks)
- Star Wars: Squadrons
- Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Simulator
- I Fetch Rocks
- Catch & Release
- Cook-Out (cooking in co-op, similar to Overcooked)
- Rags to Dishes (similar to Cook-Out, but single player and with buying upgrades)
- Cooking Simulator VR (more realistic cooking)
- Cosmodread
- Fallout 4 VR (Fallout VR Essentials Overhaul modlist on wabbajack)
- Skyrim VR (with FUS modlist on wabbajack)
- Eye of the Temple
- Ghost Signal: A Stellaris Game
- The Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners
- Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades (there's even a mod which adds co-op)
- Kayak VR: Mirage
- Mothergunship: Forge (amazing for co-op)
- No Man's Sky (but update 5.0 reduced VR performance a lot, so not as enjoyable anymore)
- Pistol Whip
- Robinson: The Journey (but you need to edit a config file to have normal sharp resolution, and not pixel fest, and the controls were originally made for HTC Vive, so not that comfortable, but the game is on CryEngine, and it's one of not many big AAA VR games, but it was originally made for PSVR and PC port was made for Vive)
- Serious Sam VR (I don't know how they achieved it, but you can spam jump and you still don't feel nauseous at all, even though your character jumps. Still as good as flatscreen games)
- Tactical Assault VR
- Trover Saves the Universe
- Vengeful Rites
- Walkabout Minigolf
- VTOL VR

And also VR mods:
- 7 Days to Die (I spent around 70 hours in VR already, and overall over 400 hours including flatscreen)
- Risk of Rain 2
- Lethal Company
- Subnautica (has official VR mod, but SubmersedVR mod adds VR motion controls support, and adds a lot of different improvements)
- Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy
- Firewatch

While I have not (I'm also aware that there are mods for them) a lot of these are not officially VR titles... Also, nice YouTube page my friend. VR titles just have no longevity my friend... Name a title that's SUPER popular that's VR specifically that is't an after thought (Besides Half Life) great game by the way. I own a lot of those titles and IMO there garbage gimmicky games.

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Originally posted by Kondiq:

Originally posted by The Crescent Hawk:

but i Want a finished Wrath before they work on VR. Focus on that

And that's why I told you the VR port is being developed by 3rd party studio without slowing down development of the flatscreen version. The Flat2VR Studios is made of people who developed unofficial VR mods for flatscreen games, thus they don't need much help from the game developers, other than having source code of the game to make their job easier.

EDIT. Btw, IIRC, the VR mod was under heavy development by the same team before it became an official VR port. I think it was actually released as standalone mod for Quest, but not for PCVR.

I think the problem is more that it seems Wrath has just been abandoned (no updates in six months), so if there's anybody doing any work on the game, it should be going to make it better, rather than being a port. I don't know if I agree (especially because it's another studio doing it), but I think it's a fair position to hold.