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Even with the roll exploit? I think not.
My idea of separation of PC vs Console times comes from 2 tracks mainly: Adders Lair and Chilly Castle.
Adders Lair because OOB is possible on that track while it is not on PC anymore, and Chilly Castle for the possibility of using DLC characters available on PC and not on Console, and I don't really believe in locking PC players in using certain characters and not other when they're available to them.
I realized it doesn't really make sense from the point of view of someone that only and exclusively ever played the PC version of the game.
If I were to separate records, it would be these two tracks only.
There seems to be the misunderstanding that for whatever reasons console boost more, flip faster, fly faster, etc.. This is most definitely not the case.
A flip/roll is exactly the same on console as it is on PC until you hit the criteria specificed in the OP. And again, looking at the WR strats, only two tracks are affected by this.
I personally see no reason to want to end cross-platform competition entirely over two tracks.
@Thino
I don't believe Adders should be taken into the same account as DV and RL. To do the skip you have to aim for a specific spot in the wall, there is a barrier there but what you're aiming for is the 'hole'. But again, you have to intentionally be aiming to go OoB there, it wouldn't be hard for a console player to want to compete for the cross-plat WR and stay inbounds and mimic a PC launch, especially when you look at my PC launch.
Edit: spelling
What about the Chilly Castle separation?
edit: fair enough
So far Chilly Castle is the only track affected but I believe we should be flexible, about what is coming up in the future
don't bring characters into this. I don't get annoyed when Ryo or that annoying yogs guy get used, if someone manages to break a record with one of them, I wouldn't say that they should do it again with another character simply because I don't have them.
but PC and console versions are different versions. this should in itself be enough to seperate them. an analogy would be rugby league to rugby union.
a console world record is a console world record. a pc world record is a pc world record. what's the fuss? pc is simply the more popular union that gets more attention.
While you do technically hold your platform's WR, its just been custom within our community to refer to the cross-plat WR as WR.
You're saying they're two different versions, this isn't entirely true. Tell me the difference between Samba Studios on PC and console, Ocean View, Dragon Canyon, Shibuya Downtown, etc, etc.. The fact is you can't, because there are no differences between the versions (other than whats already been stated ofc). So why end cross-platform competition?
Had we not competed cross-plat I would've stopped playing just a couple months after launch. And I definitely wouldn't have stuck around to create all the strats that I have had I known my runs would've been brushed off as console only.
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1058842-Official-Fusion-World-Record-Thread
Cross-platform competition is only ever healthy and should be embraced imo
if you tell me such and such is the "world record holder" and they have a record on console... well no, not to me they aren't. PC is the most relevant for times since it's the most pouplar and up to date, that's not to say PC takes proity but they're the record holder for console as other guy is record holder for PC.
if the two wanna shake dicks about, that's up to them really. like I said in the orignal conversation, rule 2 and 5 I don't understand and will never comply with.
oh, but characters should be taken out of the question entirely. any character should be fine to use.