Ban notification from a Steam Community Moderator — Jan 9 @ 12:18pm
You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions
You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions by a Steam Community Moderator for your post in "How I think the game can be improved":

Sorry, all resources are tied due to Trading Floor, the game will have to take the back burner for a time.
-Dev Team


Ban Reason:

Trolling


Please review the Discussions Rules and Guidelines.

This is a permanent ban.




Yep, so that happened

Source thread: http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/494632506575523567/

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To start, this is my ban notification:
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Like many KF fans, I was excited to hear KF2 was going to be released for early access. To hear Alan Wilson say, "It's not rocket science," I thought TW cared about what the fanbase thinks. Afterall, he'd been TW's best PR person. And I believed TW would live up to that standard. I was wrong.

All was good at first. Being that I'm a fan of KF, I had no qualm purchasing a copy of PCGamer to get a key for the Mr. Foster Dosh Jacket to support the development of KF2. I even contemplated purchasing multiple copies of the magazine and game for people I know personally who play KF.

Then TW released the KF2 beta keys back in April 2015 in a way that mostly scalpers ended up with the beta keys. It was disgusting to see how many people were trying to sell the beta keys. Why didn't TW release the beta keys to people who were actually interested in playing the beta rather than people who were only interested in making some quick dosh? People like KF players, or people who bought the Mr. Foster Dosh Jacket, would have been a better choice to release the beta keys to. I decided to let the issue go and wait for the early access release. However, because of my disappointment in the method of beta key distribution, I decided not to buy multiple copies of the game. Now I feel it was a good decision not to buy multiple copies of the game.

After KF2 was released for early access, a large number of players saw problems with KF2 gameplay. Rather than TW addressing what many felt were major flaws, TW chose to ignore those issues.

TW asked people to provide feedback in early access. We assumed TW wanted real feedback, both good and bad. We did both. But it appears the only feedback TW wanted was praise.

One major issue with the gameplay was zed teleportation. I felt teleportation was the biggest detractor. Though I wasn't for the absolute removal of teleportation, because it could be useful in certain situations. But teleporation shouldn't be so blatently obvious cause it "break(s) the illusion." Now, however, I feel the game will be better off without teleporation.

There were some main discussions of teleporation which I tried to tie together. We were told to take the discussion to TW's discussion forum. Then I heard some people were being banned from TW's forum and the discussions were being censored. "Why bother going to TW's forum when we're being censored there?", I thought. So, I decided to stay in the Steam forums.

I began searching for similar, less noticed discussions concerning teleportation. Searching through other discussions, I noticed that Yoshiro, the representative for TW in the Steam forums, was actually responding to discussions about lesser issues. Apparently he had time to reply to those discussions, but not discussions that more players were concerned about. I also noticed that discussions about teleportation that didn't draw as much attention being burried by the normal mechanics of the forum.

That all led me to conclude that zed teleportation was more of an issue than just the number of comments made in the in the main discussions. Worst of all, people who had a problem with teleportation were being ignored. Yoshiro could have at least responded to tell us TW's thought on the subject.

I thought maybe, if I bumped some of the lesser discussions of teleportation, maybe TW would take notice. Instead I get a troll who doesn't agree with having teleportation changed. He also said a moderator is his friend and he's going to have me banned. Consequently, I was banned permanently.

I would have been okay with a temporary ban since I did violate some discussion rules. Plenty of people have been banned for worse temporarily. So, I asked Steam for help on how to get unbanned, however, there was never any response. Currently, I'm still banned.

Other issues have risen with KF2, mainly topics about microtransactions and PvP mode which many people have arguments against. Again, we have silence from TW in addition to people being banned and opinions being censored in the Steam forum. Could this be censor by proxy?

Is this how TW wants Steam moderators to treat TW's customer base? If not, TW needs to step in and correct the problem.

Source thread: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/598198356190054018/

I was banned for saying jack and shit. I was talking about how Payday 2 devs promised there would be no MT ever. I made a post stating that "Remember guys promises mean Jack and Shit" I was banned for that statement and it wasn't even refering to TW i was talking about the Payday 2 devs.

Then when i took to Twitter they blocked me immediately.

You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions
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abugaj Nov 24, 2015 @ 3:56am
Also you ban me for saying one S word but i see people on here dropping F bombs multiple times and have them directed at people. My post wasn't even directed at anyone. I am being discriminated against and i don't appreciate it. Give me a justifiable reason i am perma banned for one curse word yet others don't share the same fate.

abugaj Nov 23, 2015 @ 6:37pm
I think banning me for one response is quite harsh seeing as i have put a lot into this game and helped the community for years now. I have seen far worse and cursed on many forums before even this one and never got banned. Please unban me.

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585863921693/
http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585865934811/#c368542585866638560

Got banned for a full month for posting a short response to a troll. Accused of "spamming and unnecessary bumping" when there's certainly been worse cases of actual spam going on by the likes of the pro-RNG MT people.

Screenshot proof is below, along with a screenshot of the post I was responding to after that.

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Source thread: http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/364040166669631173/

A single off-hand comment about my annoyance over the game's direction and I got banned.

You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions
You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions by a Steam Community Moderator for your post in "Martial artist or SWAT":

Just think...if they hadn't wasted their time with zedconomy, PvP, and game conductor, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Ban Reason:
Derailing thread

Please review the Discussions Rules and Guidelines.

This ban will expire on Apr 23 @ 11:18am. Until then, you will not be able to post in Killing Floor 2 Discussions.

Edit: Requested screen shot of original ban notice http://i.imgur.com/VDwlrpf.png

Source thread: http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585864200997/

Just got a Moderator communication notification. It appeared in the "envelope" at the top right where you normally get notified of responses to thread posts, trade offers, friend requests, etc.

It was a communication type that was unique and labeled Modderator message. It stated
" There has been numerous complaints of you derailing and going off topic. This is a warning" and had a link to the Steam forum conduct rules.

Once I read it, access to the message disappeared and I have not been able to find a way to get back to it. If anyone knows how to access such messages please let me know. Ill keep searching.

Community Moderation Messages > Message Detail



A warning from a Steam Community Moderator — Apr 15 @ 10:36am

Derailing warning

There are numurous complaints about you specificly derailing threads and bumping threads. This is a warning on that topic.

You can find the rules and guidelines of the Steam discussions here: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810&l=english

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Ban notification from a Steam Community Moderator — 8 hours ago
You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions
You have been banned from Killing Floor 2 Discussions by a Steam Community Moderator for your post in "Killing Floor 2 General Discussions":

So a user posted a discussion under the name "The real reason why MT's are not good", which he/she provided a screenshot of two RNG MT cosmetics clipping. Yoshrio, being the PR Meatsheild that he is, jumped aboard with the obvious intent on silencing criticism (despite what he'll tell you). It's been a long, amusing road for Tripwire Interactive over the past year and a half.

I've supported them for years, but this mess has just been too enjoyable to laugh at.
I'll give everyone a quick recap:

- Released an Early Access game marketed as a true successor to KF1
- Released KF2 in Early Access to make it more difficult for players to refund.
- Claims that they wanted feedback several times but ignores anything critical.
- Claims that it would be released at the end of 2015. Lies.
- Claims that the Sharpshooter pack would be released alongside the unwanted PvP mode.
- Horribly slow updates
- Horrible balancing
- Horrible flex system
- Horrible zed teleportation
- Censorship on the TWI forums
- A PvP mode that was woefully rushed into the game to keep players interested, which failed
- Claims from former employees about how incompitent that thr company is
- John Gibson claiming that the company was getting better at communication
- They took a fully paid company cruise instead of finishing the remaining perks
- They are working on another game entirely, while this game is still unfinished
- An RNG MT system, another form of Paid mods for Valve. 25% of the profit to modders.
- An RNG MT system that was NOT mentioned either on the store page or in the Return of the Patriarch update for the sake of maximizing profit.

There is much more, but it will be comming in the next update 9 months from now.

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585863921693/

Yoshrio

"Passed this along to be fixed, thanks"

"Removed offtopic/derailing posts. Treat this as a warning"

A threat? Tsk tsk tsk. Jesus fricken christ. I'm so done with Tripwire.

Ban Reason:
Openly arguing with moderation

Please review the Discussions Rules and Guidelines.

This is a permanent ban.

Screenshot evidence:
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A new low in moderation.

Check out this thread
http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542844481632244/#p1

You will see people start baiting, trolling, and flaming. They even bring me up by name even though I am not in the thread.

I responded in the thread in a very polite post. At the end, I say say that trolling was the issue with the forum , not people like me who bring up problems or ask questions.

I then recieved a Moderator warning for "back seat moderation". I took a screen shot and will post a link. I am flabergasted.

Please, take a look at the thread, tell me what you see. Maybe I am too close to the issue. The trolls have picked up the pace and it feels like the moderator / s are allowing it to see if they can trap me into a reaction and ban me to shut me down.

A warning from a Steam Community Moderator — 49 minutes ago

Backseat moderating/flamebaiting

"And to those flaming, baiting, trolling me , when I wasn't even in the thread, you are the problem with these forums. Its not customers asking questions nor bringing up issues, its the constant attacks and pettiness of those who seek to keep people from saying something with which they do not agree. Shame on you."

Is exactly what you are doing as well. Do not engage with them in anyway.

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Seems I have a big target. I have noticed a few people trying to drag me into fights and reporting me as a group for anything and everything. I am going to have to be quiet to avoid a permanent ban. Seems like the bullies strategy is working.

I have been banned for a month for making the following comment on a thread that asked the question "When are we gonna get new guns? Some classes need some extra guns asap (demo,support,medic)".

At present rate, probably towards the mid/end of 2017 obtainable as drops from crates or Cross-promotion deals. In case you are wondering, I am not joking or being sarcastic, this is how I see future weapon introductions happening given the present development direction.

Apparently, making a prediction is a civil manner about the direction the game is taking is "bait" these days. I used to think that I would be angry about being banned from a KF2 forum. But I am not, I am not even surprised or disappointed. Tripwire has simply done what is expected of them these days, they silenced criticism.

Edit/Update 5/18/2016:
I was banned for a month exactly a month ago. When I went to KF2 forums today I found out that I can not post despite the ban being expired. This is because they kicked me from the Steam KF2 group. This is sneaky and underhanded which is nothing unusual from Tripwire.

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Source thread: http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542844482566810/

Picture of group kick:

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/profiles/76561198006217347/images/

Parody Thread Locked: http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/app/232090/discussions/0/368542585856401727/

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Just got warned. Black Spawn made a new post in the No MT thread about f2p , I responded "Interesting". I reveived a warning and the post was removed

Post spam/Bumping
Haing the same few people reply to each other and not adding new ideas to the conversation especially in a coordinated way is the defiition of post spam and bumping. This will be the only warning.

"Very interesting." Has been removed from the thread.