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Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 4:56pm

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#BruhvoPizza Officer 22 Dec @ 4:22pm

Originally posted by #BruhvoPizza:
''2.0.3-4u"(unofficial patch): What it is and why you should avoid it-
Most Recent Official Public Build:
2.0.2 Alpha
Reconfigure Arsenal Crash-fix & other minor fixes:
Google Drive

Let me start off by saying that I am not making this topic as a smear campaign against an individual, however, it would be silly to not mention this person: however, for those PC-people out there, I might decide to censor the person's name, haven't decided just yet.

So to cut to the chase, this person virtually on his own accord (and yes, this person I was once good friends with), and yes, with the support of others, but mainly in an effort onto his/her own created these unofficial patches "2.0.3u" and "2.0.4u". Positive things happened as a result of these patches. Negative things happened because of these patches. The positive was the buzz that was created. The negative? The dev team hadn't been consulted with first.

This creates it's own bee's nest of problems, as you might imagine, but also had benefits onto it's own, of which, benefits that I can discuss if prodded, but are largely irrelvant;

--the main point to be making here is that these patches are not reliable and cause problems.
Further more, the creator of these patches operates a server where weapon damages, attributes, and even skill-perk abilities are modified on the fly, causing even more problems because of a highly edited script. The last time that the lead devs Mazor and Vusunta had an informal "ask me anything" event, they made it clear that they frowned upon this.

"But wait a minute, Bruhvo: aren't you simply appealing to authority here because you had a falling out with the guy and now you have it out for him"

Well, I'll tell you this. It's not just the lead devs who disagree with these practices and had no say in the first place:

It's the entire community of veteran Firearms™ mod players who also disagree with these practices, and rather than be forced to put up with it, have simply left the game.

So for this reason, I urge others to not use his patch.

I will post a link for the download for the crash fix.

Until we get a proper official 2.0.3 release sorted out: for now--

We will resume using 2.0.2 with no mods or scripts: It is the only way to ensure that your game will run the way it is supposed to.

Thank you.

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Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 4:57pm

[EF]™|D㋛naukind€® Officer 22 Dec @ 6:34pm

Originally posted by [EF:
™|D㋛naukind€®]
FireArms Source small graphics fix
Hey all , put my new fix to improve the game. list of fixes : 1. Changed the fonts main menu and the fonts in the game, they became less . 2. Changed the position of the death notices.3. In the game menu added links for direct connection to the servers. 4 . The basic setup of the game scripts are not touched.5. Changed some sounds. 6. Minor small fixes. download this patch you can use the link below . Thank you all , I tried for the community !

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_kVHSXS9AYnM0lRblRYcEI5UUU/view?usp=sharing

Last edited by [EF]™|D㋛naukind€®; 23 hours ago

Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 5:00pm

[ACPL] Jon 6 hours ago

Originally posted by [ACPL:
Jon]I'm sorry, what?

First of all, it was stated all-around it was an unofficial fix and you understand what it implies by downloading it.

Secondly, entire community of FA veterans? Again: what? I don't disagree with that and just by that go f your shitty propaganda. Few others I remember from A FEW YEARS AGO (Repro, you skilled bastard!) and a few of my friends that played FAS with me A FEW YEARS AGO don't disagree with that and were playing with us. You know why? BECAUSE WE FINALLY COULD.

Because we like FAS. Original team split up? Too bad. Did they ditch their own game and community? Yes, they did. Did it suck? Very much, because FAS was full of potential and fun.

And that said potential and fun died with bugged, crash-happy 2.0.2 release and then dev team stopping development and communication. The balance was disputable at best, too.

But mostly, crashes and no further support. That KILLED the game.

So yeah. Such an evil bastard. Resurrected A DEAD, BROKEN game. You shouldn't play his UNOFFICIAL patches, they cause problems! Unlike original game that don't cause problems because:
- it's dead
- when it's not dead, it's crashing
- when you end up on desktop, your problems end, so FAS 2.0.2 = no probs at all, eh?

Further more, the creator of these patches operates a server where weapon damages, attributes, and even skill-perk abilities are modified on the fly, causing even more problems because of a highly edited script. The last time that the lead devs Mazor and Vusunta had an informal "ask me anything" event, they made it clear that they frowned upon this.
I'm sorry, but this is just pure BS. Vunsunta and few others from original team tested modified damage and buy configs with me and my buddies a few years back. They said it's cool for us to keep a modded server and then later again he confirmed we can do with configs whatever we want unless it's stated these are MODDED values \ scripts.

I know what you're talking about with the "problems" (bugs occuring if you run unmodded game on 2.0.4u servers*), but it's clearly labeled so it's obvious it boils down to how you present this issue to the people like Vunsunta. Especially if you'd fucking remind him that the game died because it was abandoned at broken 2.0.2 release.

*which were also happening only is you used extra attachments \ weapon variants added in 2.0.4, rarely eating your weapon if you used all the credits bcz. of changed credit values.

Honestly this feels like a hate campaign.

So let me remind everyone of three things:
- I WAS THERE, during old days and now
- I spoke with the devs before about the matter
- They said it's cool

So stop talking in the name of undisclosed "veterans" because I've met few of them on 2.0.4u

AFTER A FEW YEARS.

Bruhvo, you're a cool guy, pls don't do this. For whatever reason you're doing this...

Just stop.

Last edited by [ACPL] Jon; 6 hours ago

Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 5:03pm

#BruhvoPizza Officer 5 hours ago

Originally posted by #BruhvoPizza:
Oh well, didn't know the ACLU (joke) legal team would respond so quickly xD

Some =/= all.

There were positives. Great positives. Unforseen positives.

This provides an alternative to the remainder of the FAS community which does not find itself in the dude's good graces, or feel alienated for one reason or another.

Unfortuantely, there's a anti- entourage that stretches longer than a 5th Avenue Iphone-7 launch line.

As long as he continues to horde the game to himself (yes we may disagree here but it is how some feel), and especially after he has alienated himself from the actual dev team, it just seems fair.

If he can just eject me from a community that I helped him build (just like that), then surely I can choose not to associate with his unofficial patches and decide to align myself with like-minded invididuals and good leaders, and provide an alternative to a community which I built all but by myself.

While, the group may be small, and consisting of MANY of my own friends, I dare say that I don't believe my thoughts are simply richocheting around the walls of a limited echo-chamber.

That being said, I appreciate the talk we've had, but obviously such wordy post warranted an official response. :)

Last edited by #BruhvoPizza; 5 hours ago

Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 5:04pm

[EF]™|D㋛naukind€® Officer 3 hours ago

Originally posted by [EF:
™|D㋛naukind€®]#BruhvoPizza, got kicked out just like that ?? Oh nooo, maybe soon there will be a legend that you belong to some sort of extremist sect , like me )) So this is just the beginning ... When the thunder started to play on my server and was constantly asking questions about my scripts on the weapon I first changed with the release of 2.0.1... and It was the basis for his vidimo 2.0.4, I can not say, then he created his own server and banned me on it, was expelled from the group,and he came on my server with empty steam accounts, once seen on the server a new map or port map from another game. I'm a Nazi and everyone who plays with me also became the club of the Nazis (that's the word thunder, although I don't understand how I - a Jew can be a Nazi)... Yes , I attacked his server DDOS , but I did not start this abuse ! BruhvoPizza can and began to write tough , but he's damn right !

Thundercracker

23 Feb, 2017 @ 5:05pm

#BruhvoPizza Officer 3 hours ago

Originally posted by #BruhvoPizza:
Thing is, I simply took his word for everything for the longest time.

I don't consider the information that I had once to be reliable anymore.