Espire 14 Dec, 2012 @ 1:10am
Login history suggestion (careful with Hackers)
nowadays we all know hackers have the ability to hack, they can hack no matter in game or through the internet,

but what if our profile has been use around "3 minutes ago" but you yourself, loggout "2 hrs ago" and you suspect that your computer might have been shut down last 2 minutes

this things sometimes happen to every profile, including mine, what im saying is, steam guard's codes are no more useful,

Q:
"but why? insn't steam guard codes more useful.."

A:
because hackers, they know your passwords, but they dont care about your email adress to get the codes, they just use random codes to type everytime the steam guard ask for it..

what i want to suggest is, that Steam should provide a login history or last online history..

so that it could show how long that who or what was using our profile and our friends profile.

wht do you think?

Last edited by Espire; 14 Dec, 2012 @ 2:50am
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 KARR™ 14 Dec, 2012 @ 5:09am 
A last login time could be useful.

Steam Guard however shouldn't let anyone in, guessing a 5 alphanumerical code with only a few chances before it kicks you out ISN'T going to be easy and you can't brute force it because it won't let you. They can't just type some "random characters" and get into your account.

- Also generally it's not "hackers" that you need to worry about, it's people that offer you things like "you want some free games" or "you can access anyones email, here's how..." that lead to the people GIVING AWAY their usernames and passwords!
Espire 14 Dec, 2012 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by KARR:

i do agree with ya
Espire 14 Dec, 2012 @ 6:55am 
also, this is a good idea for brothers or sisters who shared profile with their younger brother or younger sister (who plays COD all night), to check what time they started logging in
Tito Shivan 14 Dec, 2012 @ 7:43am 
In 'theory' we shouldn't have a 'last logged in' feature, since the account can only be used by oneself.
(And i already know where and when have i been logged in) and i cannot share the account.

Also, such info would be not useful in case of a hijack. As any hijacker worth his bacon will change your password as soon as he accesses your account, leaving you unable to log in, to avoid being nagged by the rightful owner while he empties your backpack.

Also, as Karr mentioned, purely 'guessing' a Steamguard code is a purely impossible task. If such thing could happen, Gabe's Steam account would be long hijacked (He gave away his account username/password to public when they presented Steamguard)
Espire 14 Dec, 2012 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
yes, but some of the people on steam are 12 below, they sometimes share their account with their brothers and sisters, so that the elders can ensure their safety,

as what we all know that Steam has already launched Big Picture Mode last week which is easy for kids below 12, to watch uncensord videos and others, and also erasing history through Big Picture's website history and deleting the history screenshot in the computer files,

these kind of things always happens every day and night to the kids, and some of us share profile with them asking "what time do you start logging in to steam" and the younger brother says "10 pm, i was playing Black Ops 2" but the real thing is he started logging in at 8 pm at started watching porn, and that effect the account being watched.

that's why i say this we should have a log in history, for what time to time, now steam is only featuring the part when we log off...

and have you tried logging in your account through the website? there's no proof that you logged out from a website, it still shows " last online 18 hrs"

just try it, belive me.. these hackers or whatever you want to call them, can also log in our account, through a website, even they dont have the steam client.
Last edited by Espire; 14 Dec, 2012 @ 8:14pm
Tito Shivan 15 Dec, 2012 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by Treyzen:
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
yes, but some of the people on steam are 12 below, they sometimes share their account with their brothers and sisters, so that the elders can ensure their safety,

as what we all know that Steam has already launched Big Picture Mode last week which is easy for kids below 12, to watch uncensord videos and others, and also erasing history through Big Picture's website history and deleting the history screenshot in the computer files,

these kind of things always happens every day and night to the kids, and some of us share profile with them asking "what time do you start logging in to steam" and the younger brother says "10 pm, i was playing Black Ops 2" but the real thing is he started logging in at 8 pm at started watching porn, and that effect the account being watched.

that's why i say this we should have a log in history, for what time to time, now steam is only featuring the part when we log off...

and have you tried logging in your account through the website? there's no proof that you logged out from a website, it still shows " last online 18 hrs"

just try it, belive me.. these hackers or whatever you want to call them, can also log in our account, through a website, even they dont have the steam client.
That's why i was talking 'in theory' (With Valve's Mindset). I would welcome such a feature. And since the addition of the Community Market one can actually trade within a browser, without using the client, while being logged in two places at the same time (Browser/client)
Espire 15 Dec, 2012 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:

okay...
Treyzen 15 Dec, 2012 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by KARR:

since when hackers ask for passwords, i dont see they even ask for it?!
Espire 15 Dec, 2012 @ 8:50pm 
Originally posted by Urchin_StormGear96:

yes they do, when some makes an offer, the person just post his or her emails
Tito Shivan 16 Dec, 2012 @ 3:55am 
Take a look on how Phishing website works and you may understand how they go over Steamguard.
(It's a thread i made on SPUF, explaining how they work, so people would know what to look for to avoid getting their accounts 'hacked')
Last edited by Tito Shivan; 16 Dec, 2012 @ 3:55am
Treyzen 19 Dec, 2012 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
Take a look on how Phishing website works and you may understand how they go over Steamguard.
(It's a thread i made on SPUF, explaining how they work, so people would know what to look for to avoid getting their accounts 'hacked')

is that also effective when we use it on our phones?
ManiacMal 19 Dec, 2012 @ 7:12am 
Hacking isn't new, it's been around since the dawn of the internet.

Originally posted by Treyzen:
nowadays we all know hackers have the ability to hack, they can hack no matter in game or through the internet

Really? Hackers can hack? No way!

It's no more of a problem than it was back then, the real point to the discovery of all of this is because we now have groups coming forth saying "Ya we did this". Before everyone kept quite and everything was invisible but now it's like some race of achievement.

Steamguard is a very secured system and no hacker can just brute force the codes, even with the best tech it would take well beyond the hacker's life time to crack. Making it not worth anyone's time.

The way people are getting into people's accounts is from phishing scams, phishing scammers are not hackers they pry on the weak minded to get their information. Complete different boat in the water.
Last edited by ManiacMal; 19 Dec, 2012 @ 7:13am
Treyzen 19 Dec, 2012 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Hash brick:
Hacking isn't new, it's been around since the dawn of the internet.

Originally posted by Treyzen:
nowadays we all know hackers have the ability to hack, they can hack no matter in game or through the internet

Really? Hackers can hack? No way!

It's no more of a problem than it was back then, the real point to the discovery of all of this is because we now have groups coming forth saying "Ya we did this". Before everyone kept quite and everything was invisible but now it's like some race of achievement.

Steam guard is a very secured system and no hacker can just brute force the codes, even with the best tech it would take well beyond the hacker's life time to crack. Making it not worth anyone's time.

The way people are getting into people's accounts is from phishing scams, phishing scampers are not hackers they pry on the weak minded to get their information. Complete different boat in the water.

like what trey says, hackers can also use random codes to hack.... hackers are clever
Tito Shivan 19 Dec, 2012 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Urchin_StormGear96:
is that also effective when we use it on our phones?
As long as you are browsing the internet, the same rules apply.

Originally posted by Urchin_StormGear96:
like what trey says, hackers can also use random codes to hack.... hackers are clever
Hackers are clever, but not that clever. Bruteforcing or guessing a password is not a viable option.
Most of the accounts that are stolen are because the user gave out the login info to the hijacker.
Which means most accounts are not 'Hacked' but 'Phished'[en.wikipedia.org]
FlamingDeath 19 Dec, 2012 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by KARR:
it's not "hackers" that you need to worry about, it's people that offer you things like "you want some free games" or "you can access anyones email, here's how..." that lead to the people GIVING AWAY their usernames and passwords!

^^THIS^^

To be fair, social engineering is not hacking, its just people allowing themselves to be fooled into giving away information that they shouldnt be giving away
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