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Bobby 27 Feb, 2016 @ 5:22am
WTF, Pavel has *possibly* put 'Time Bombs' in the game, causing it to crash!!! This guy found then in the .exe
http://www.oovee.co.uk/forum/topic/12549-game-date-incorrect-crashes-custom-maps-dont-show-up/page-8#entry92670

This is serious and illegal, as he is breaking terms and conditions on STEAM and all consumer trade laws in Europe for eg. If of course this is proved. All sales are nul and void.

I suggest you guys read all of the last couple of pages of the above thread.

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 11:49 PM
This following post is for Oovee!

After seeing that this problem appeared.
I would like to point out that YOU as the company who sales this game should put a warning out for the people who are about to buy this game that it currently doesnt work but the solution is on the way.
If You have ANY ANY DECENCY IN YOU as you talking about being a professional - You must do this! Othervise You can not stand up for the real meaning of this word!!!!
Do this at least for the people who are about to pay for this game and would see it crashing after the first 5 minutes. I cant even imagine that frustration what I would feel If I just pay over 20EU for this game and it doesnt work. And yes I did see some angry comments on steam that people bought this game just know, not knowing anything and it crashes!
If you dont care enough to solve the problem for the people who bought the game already and make a rapid repair or find a quick solution (Because as the people who follows this topic on this forum can see that IT IS POSSIBLE TO COME OUT WITH A QUICK FIX!) at least prevent the ones who would run into this problam as new buyers!!!!!!!!!
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bspawn 27 Feb, 2016 @ 6:52am 
After reading that i was able to play without crashing.
Bobby 27 Feb, 2016 @ 6:53am 
Was that after downloading the guys 'fix'?
DmAnd 27 Feb, 2016 @ 8:13am 
hmmm i havnt had any crash problems in quite a while
Jokemercy 27 Feb, 2016 @ 9:44am 
Game crashes after a couple of mins for me, seems to reflect what's discussed on the Oovee forum topic.

Makes me wonder how fubar things must be between Oovee and Pavel for him to actually sabotage his work in such a drastic manner. Very bad sign imo.
PT_Master_Chief 27 Feb, 2016 @ 10:00am 
this game is dying
Futuristic Hexagon 27 Feb, 2016 @ 10:23am 
First off, my opinion. You know, from a point of professionalism, if this was meant to intentional, Pavel just assured that his game development career is OVER. I can tell you, in the industry I'm going into, if I do something like that, not only would I be fired on the spot, I'd also be sued and basically blacklisted by every company that does stuff in the field (they may compete fiercely, but they still talk to each other, and even work togeather on other projects...)

This game would be really alive, if Pavel took his head out of his rear end every so often and listened to the fans, and if Oovee understood that a transparent company that didn't behave in shady ways would likely not cause problems.

Instead, we have a game which has a lot of potential, but for some reason, has a harder time moving forward than a ZiL-130 hauling a trailer and trying to drive over a tree branch in wheel well thick mud!

From a official standpoint, I'm starting to wonder if Spintires is truely dead from the douchebaggery that has been seen by both sides of that battle... On the other hand, I'm sure it'll be alive and well thanks to the modder community, and to well intentioned people like the gentleman who had hacked the exe to figure out why the wierd behavior all of a sudden. After all, think of how many games essentially there are that haven't been touched by the publisher or developer in years, but are alive and well thanks to a 3rd party, who not only finds interseting ways to fix gamebreaking problems, but continues to add content to the game in all sorts of ways!
Madatij 27 Feb, 2016 @ 10:47am 
I tried localhosts fix and it works... for now that is.

If oovee won't fix the issue they should do a refund, because this is no accident.
Rev Counter 27 Feb, 2016 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Leonov:
Instead, we have a game which has a lot of potential, but for some reason, has a harder time moving forward than a ZiL-130 hauling a trailer and trying to drive over a tree branch in wheel well thick mud!
With no chains and diff lock off as well it seems...!
gcjeeper 27 Feb, 2016 @ 4:24pm 
my game just started to crash after 2-3 minutes in.. reinstalled, no good
kev4ev 28 Feb, 2016 @ 4:14am 
There is a group on Russian social network VK. That group calls itself 'SpinTires official group. Developer's team'. They post news from time to time, in Russian. On the day before the 23Feb timebomb, which bombs up certain workshop items (not the game's original content) appeared a post with screenshots and text. It was said about new features that Pavel has already coded, they are shown on those screenshots (new mud particles and water waves physics). In the end of the post there was a short message: 'unofficial "news" from Oovee: we do nothing for the development of the game =)' I think that message CAN be a hint for incoming problems. If so, the author of the VK Spintires page could be Pavel himself. Well, I have not met any details on the web pages yet, but IMO it is better for us if Pavel will regain the right to code further improvements. That is how I understand the situation at the moment. So I'm not anxious to blame him... yet. Just using 4 out of 6 certified mods, have no crashes at all and holding fingers crossed for the new wave's physics and other improvements. And don't forget: it was Pavel who won the Intel's Level-Up in two nominations back in 2009, so don't fight the talent https://software.intel.com/sites/campaigns/levelup2015/hall-of-glory/
blueshift1980 28 Feb, 2016 @ 5:14am 
I'm not sure whether something happened in the game and this wasn't meant to happen, or if this really is a time bomb. If it's a time bomb sort of thing like people are saying, then...I don't even know what to say. Who would even do this? This game is a good game, and it still is.

You know, you can refund games on Steam. Any game. As long as you've played it for less than 2 hours and you've had the game for less than 2 weeks, you can refund it. If this game won't ever function again, then I couldn't refund it since I've played it about 22 hours since I got it around New Years.

To refund a game, follow these instructions: support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6695-QIKM-7966

Originally posted by kev4ev:
In the end of the post there was a short message: 'unofficial "news" from Oovee: we do nothing for the development of the game =)' I think that message CAN be a hint for incoming problems./

Oh. Holy mother of thirsty Russian trucks. I'll guess you've translated that?

This is not how a game should be. It should be playable without it crashing every time.
Bobby 28 Feb, 2016 @ 6:06am 
Originally posted by blueshift1980:
I'm not sure whether something happened in the game and this wasn't meant to happen, or if this really is a time bomb. If it's a time bomb sort of thing like people are saying, then...I don't even know what to say. Who would even do this? This game is a good game, and it still is.

You know, you can refund games on Steam. Any game. As long as you've played it for less than 2 hours and you've had the game for less than 2 weeks, you can refund it. If this game won't ever function again, then I couldn't refund it since I've played it about 22 hours since I got it around New Years.

To refund a game, follow these instructions: support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6695-QIKM-7966

Originally posted by kev4ev:
In the end of the post there was a short message: 'unofficial "news" from Oovee: we do nothing for the development of the game =)' I think that message CAN be a hint for incoming problems./

Oh. Holy mother of thirsty Russian trucks. I'll guess you've translated that?

This is not how a game should be. It should be playable without it crashing every time.
It's illegal to tamper with a game dissasemble code etc. Regardless of that we need STEAM to get a grip of this either suspend the workshop mods and/or stop the game updates coming through that is illegaly breaking the game. Pavel or whomever is facing a serious lawsuit as this breaking consumer law worldwide because the game (software) has to work 'as intended to' at point of sale. This is being tampered with, therefore STEAM has to withdraw sales until such time it is -if ever- selleable again.

I suggest everyone drops a ticket on STEAM inc this thread and posts from the guy who found the 'Time bombs'.
Magnizzle 28 Feb, 2016 @ 1:33pm 
My request for a refund has been declined...
blueshift1980 28 Feb, 2016 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Magnizzle:
My request for a refund has been declined...
well to get a refund you need to have the game for less than 2 weeks and you have to play it less than 2 hours. So for example if you've had the game for a month or you've played 10 hours, then you can't get a refund.
Last edited by blueshift1980; 28 Feb, 2016 @ 2:00pm
bigbadvuk 28 Feb, 2016 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Magnizzle:
My request for a refund has been declined...

Forget refund money, and use it as leverage to contact ECC ( European customer comitee) and send them a case. Im quite sure OOvee and Valve will start singing different song when they are visited by few ppl for scamming and selling unusable product.
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